Phillies Trade Deadline Possibilities?

First off, I would like to say I love speculating about possible trades in all 4 major sports. That being said, I thought I'd throw some ideas out there. I know I'm going to get ripped for this, but I'll post it anyway.

The Blue Jays have been rumored to whisper about a trade involving Roy Halladay. The Blue jays are in dire need of offense. Phillies send Jimmy Rollins, Drew Carpenter, Joe Savery, and Brad Harman for Roy Halladay. Failing this trade, maybe throw in a few chips like Marson or Jaramillo or Golson or Brett Myers or maybe even Joe Blanton or J.A. Happ. Call up Jason Donald if this works, put him in for a few games and see how he fairs. But deff. start Bruntlett too as I don't think Donald has the fielding ability of Bruntlett. Also, if the Jays still don't bite, throw in Jason Donald and ask for David Eckstein. Avoid trading Carrasco at all costs. I've actually seen him pitch up at reading and let me tell you, I saw some nasty curveballs that were just sickening. I don't know if he'll be an ace but deff. a No. 2 at least.

Halladay doesn't seem intent on signing a contract extension with the Jays as he has expressed that he wants to win a World Series, something the Blue Jays aren't doing soon. The Blue Jays should trade him this year instead of next as he would become a rent a player next year and his value would drop. The Jays would be getting a reigning MVP with exceptional fielding skills at shorstop in Jimmy Rollins. He's probably the second best SS in the majors......when he's not late to the game. The Jays would also get 2 pitching prospects and a second baseman prospect. They could even get 3 pitching prospects and another infield prospect and a quality starter/closer. In 2 years when all these prospects are called up, most of their offensive woes should be solved. The potential

Rotation could be this:

1. Halladay

2. Hamels

3. Moyer

4. Kendrick

5. Blanton/Myers

Line up:

1. Victorino

2. Eckstein

3. Utley

4. Howard

5. Burrell

6. Werth

7. Feliz

8. Ruiz

9. P

Depending on Myers' next outing, I think the Phils need to trade him as a closer. We all know Brett wants to be a closer and his calling is in the pen, but we have Lidge and we're not going to pay $12 mill for a set up man. He could possibly go to Detroit as a closer. In return, the Phils could acquire Pudge Rodriguez. Brandon Inge is gonna be the starter next year, and it's Pudge's last year in Detroit. Detroit is only 6.5 out of first place behind the White Sox. Without the blown save, they're only 4.5 back. Maybe it's possible. Pudge would be an instant upgrade over Ruiz or Coste. The Phils could also call up J.A. Happ as he's had some solid innings or even J.D. Durbin. Side note- why don't the Phillies use Happ more? He has a breaking ball to go along with a change up and a fastball. Kendrick only has a breaking ball and a fastball as he still needs to develop that change up. But I digress. Pudge's .290 average would bolster the team's average from the pathetic .257 it is now. Also, if Pudge lands here and signs an extension, that opens up the option trade Marson and Jaramillo as chips.

And who else is with me on trying to move Jimmy Rollins? He's let the "MVP" thing go to his head. Suddenly team rules need not apply to him anymore. And I hate how he only swings for power at every chance he gets. "First pitch swinging" Jimmy is what I call him. Last year he almost always hit for contact. Clearly his best year is behind him, but with above average years ahead of him, I say move him. He needs that kind of slap to the face, not just some old "oh, you can have the day off today and still get paid and do what you want." He deff. needs some sort of shake up. So does the team.

Bottom line, what I would do if I were Pat Gillick. Trade Brett Myers, Cris Coste, and Drew Carpenter for Pudge and a low level Prospect. Then trade Brad Harmon, Marson, Kyle Drabek, Joe Savery, and Rollins for Halladay. Rotation:

1. Halladay

2. Hamels

3. Moyer

4. Kendrick

5. Blanton



Lineup:

1. Shane Victorino

2. Pudge

3. Utley

4. Howard

5. Burrell

6. Werth

7. Feliz

8. Bruntlett/Donald

9. P

If you can't tell, we're basically swapping out a shorstop for a starting pitcher and an arse load of prospects. I know its a pipe dream to get Halladay, but I really thing the Blue Jays need to trade him now instead of next year as they can get more. The Pudge trade I think is really possible to happen. Let me know what you think.
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37 Comments On: "Phillies Trade Deadline Possibilities?"

 
Man, I'm tired as hell now

I think we need to bring in Pudge and ship Marson

That's one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. Let's trade the Phils 22 year old catcher of the future for a washed up 36 year old catcher. Thank god you aren't the Phils GM

Pudge is hitting .290 with about 30 RBIs.

and we need to ship rollins

and i think we should include carrasco in the halladay deal

thoughts? ideas? opinions?

Eckstein sucks. You're a fool to want him over J-Roll

I don't want Eckstein over JRoll, I want Halladay over JRoll

I think they need to keep J Roll, but I agree we need to find a way to bolster the bottom of the lineup. Ruiz can hit worth a damn and jenkins, feliz, etc aren't helping the top of the lineup. When the top is hittiing we are a very good team, but every great team has the bottom or the lineup to carry the top when things aren't going well. Try and get Pudge and a starting pitcher.

Holy $hit, is someone actually supporting my idea? I thought EVERYONE was going to rip me

i agree with J-Roll. I can't stand how he swings at the first pitch everytime and he always pops up. Still, he can field and run, so it's tough just to get rid of him. Bruntlett is not an everyday player and Donald isn't ready yet to be called up full-time. Or maybe he should so he can test the waters and find out what he needs to work on.

As for trading for Pudge. Pudge is past his prime and isn't going to be able to do much. He may produce more than Ruiz/Coste, but he's not worth trading for.

that's just my two cents

I totally understand, but I dont see how we could possibly bring anyone else in. Casey Blake is gone, Nady is gone, The pirates want too much for Bay. Besides, I really think we need to get another ace type starter.

The top of the lineup isn't helping the top of the lineup either. Utley is in a huge slump, while Howard is batting .234 and Rollins is nowhere near what he was last year.

There is no trade that can fix what is going on. The roster is fine. They have to fix this themselves. It would be shortsighted to unload a ton of major league and minor league talent for a big name that still won't make any difference. Adding Halladay would make the rotation better, but if the team continues to play like this, it will not get us into the playoffs, let alone deep into them. I'm getting awfully tired of the trade (inset superstar who's had a bad run lately here) and (insert all farm talent here) for some big name. Rollins, Howard, and Utley are not performing up to their abilities, but that does not mean they need to be traded. That means they need to play better.

And as far as unloading all of the farm talent, you need to be a little more thoughtfull about when you push all in. You only move all in when you think you can win, and in light of our recent play, I'd hold onto those chips and live to fight another day.

I love made up trades where we send garbage and get superstars in return. The Phillies don't need a massive overhaul so you can relax on all of these fantasy baseball trades.

All of you trade J-Roll folks out there are complete and utter morons! I can not stress this enough that you are complete morons. You made the playoffs because of him last year. He is your team's catalyst, period! Halladay is not going anywhere and removing a viable option at the top of your order will kill you and no Victorino is not a replacement option. Jimmy has always been streaking and WILL pick his game up in the coming weeks but please, please, please stop writing your non sense about these types of trades. You all sound plain ignorant.

And you said it yourself, he helped us win LAST YEAR. Keywords= last year. He's done practically nothing this year except hit a double in the ninth against the mets.

cant believe you would consider trading.....rollins the MVP......your nuts........completley nuts and should be drug out to the street and shot........whats with all these bogus rumors surrounding the phillies and eagles????ust keep quiet if you have nothing worty of saying!!!!!!!1

just think for a moment. think back to last year. Rollins had a great attitude, contributed on and off the field, and had great leadership. Correct? Now look at this year. He's hitting under .270 and gets benched for not giving it his all and being late to the game, great leadership isn't it? There's clearly something wrong this season.

dude...he's a .277 carreer hitter. Last year was his best year ever and this year he's back to earth. Still, he's one of the best SS in the national league and you'd be a moron to trade him.

Keep living in your dream world buddy.

LMFAO! OR WTF.......LOL

while we're trading away all of our blue chip prospects and 2007 league MVP, let's trade Utley for Joe Crede and Howard for Adam Dunn

you cant give up rollins period

if the phils can get rid of myers great but no way a team is taking him the way he has been pitching i say sit myers and go with JA Happ look at it this way he cant be any worse. AN trade J Roll are u crazy this guy hits good with good power good speed good glove with a terrible alarm clock

no bdnookie trade howard for Griffey and sign Barry BOnds that would be awesome.............................for the METS who got Pujols just a minutes ago.

The entire team is compromised of little bitc*es. Trade 'em all. Who cares? Obviously none of the players. If we're gonna suck it should be because the players are awful. We suck because we have decent players who just don't give a s*it. Rollins sulky attitude is contagious. I guess he's upset that the team isn't going to back up his big fat mouth. Same goes for Utley. Yeah, it's funny to tell NY to f off but if you follow it up by going 0-12 against the Mets you pretty much just look like an a**hole. F*ck this "team".

Nothing in that story made sense. Why would the phillies trade their MVP shortstop? I know they need starting pitching but not at the expense of their leadoff hitting, gold glove, silver slugging shortstop. Everyone want to talk down on him because he was late to a game, and didn't hustle on a few plays. But if he was putting up the numbers he did last year no one would care. He's having a down year but is definitely going to rebound and he is just to important to this team to trade

phillies suck dick

Yes indeed they do.

i like the dunn trade, you can have griffey too

Are you kidding me? Stop it already with your Fantasy BB wish list......moron

haha. Howsabout Griff and Dunn and Encarnacion for Howard, Utley, and Hamels? Some of the idiots on this message board would be all for it.

How about trading Steve Smith for a stop sign?

This is pretty rediculous y would u wanna ship jroll

Phils will never trade J-Roll. Nobody is going to pay for Brett. And Pudge isn't worth any of our top prospects.

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