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Comparing the Browns with, the Browns- “The 2011 Browns are not expansion level terrible. They have a ways to go before they reach the dark depths of the so-called Darrin Chiaverini Epoch, when Couch and Pederson roamed the sidelines and the Browns finished dead last in the NFL in total offense two years in a row. Nor would I compare today’s iteration with 2008, the year Derek Anderson’s rocket arm malfunctioned and the Browns failed to score an offensive touchdown in its final five contests. That season saw a quarterback carousel-from-hell that included Brady Quinn, Ken Dorsey and Bruce Gradowski under center after Anderson was sidelined by injury.

The best basis of comparison is probably 2006, a memorable 4-12 campaign that witnessed offensive coordinator Maurice Carthon and second-year quarterback Charlie Frye check-downing their happy way to a 9.7-yards-per-completion rate. That offense was lambasted for its lack of imagination and a receiving corps infamous for running five-yard routes on 3rd-and-ten. It got so bad that Carthon was fired six games into the season.” [Doug/Cleveland Sports Torture]

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“If you’re judging strictly by the results, Lowe was pretty bad last year – his ERA was 34 percent worse than league average. Since you’re reading FanGraphs, however, you probably know that single-season ERA isn’t a great predictor of future ERA, and pitchers are better evaluated using metrics like FIP, xFIP, or SIERA. By any of those marks, there are reasons for optimism about Lowe going forward, and the Indians are clearly betting on his underlying metrics being a better marker of his 2012 performance than his 2011 ERA. [...]

However, like Javier Vazquez and Jose Contreras before him, Lowe has a long history of underperformance. For his career, his ERA is 3.94, nearly three-tenths of a run higher than his 3.65 xFIP. This has gotten even more pronounced the last three seasons, as during his time in Atlanta, he ran a 4.57 ERA (16 percent below average) while posting a 3.78 xFIP (6 percent above average).” [Roberts/Fan Graphs]

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As usual, Ramzy nails it- “For those few moments following the game though, there was no more waiting, speculation or commiserating. The souls of the departed all just flittered away, and not just because of Miller-to-Smith, which will be relived for years as a junior version of Krenzel-to-Jenkins at Purdue: That touchdown was the capstone on a game where both lines dominated against a program whose lines are rarely pushed around like that. The pall over Buckeye football had been lifted, if only for an afterparty. Instead of burying Ohio State, the very notion of Ohio State being buried died on Saturday night, and it took one single, miraculous drive in under a minute to make it happen.” [Ramzy/Eleven Warriors]

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Maybe not 1000 words, but this picture sure does tell the story. [Shutdown Corner]

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“On June 13, 1984, Cub general manager Dallas Green packaged some prospects to the Cleveland Indians for a proven veteran. Both sides got what they wanted out of the trade as the Cubs landed starting pitcher Rick Sutcliffe, and the Indians nabbed a young Joe Carter. In all, there were seven players involved, with Sutcliffe coming to the Cubs alongside catcher Ron Hassey and reliever George Frazier. The Indians gained outfielder Mel Hall, minor leaguer Darryl Banks, and pitcher Don Schulze in addition to Carter. For the Cubs, the trade paid immediate dividends. At the time, the Cubs were in first place in the NL East but up by only a game and a half, and they could use some help filling out their rotation. They already had a nice core of a starting staff with Dennis Eckersley, Steve Trout, and Scott Sanderson, but Sanderson missed the entire month of June with an injury.

Sutcliffe proved to be an immediate sensation. Though only 4-5 with the Indians through the first third of the season, he erupted in Chicago, going 16-1 the rest of the way, winning the Cy Young Award in the process. And, oh yeah—the Cubs won the division as well that year. As for the Indians, they gained two starting outfielders from the trade. Though Carter is by far the more familiar name to us in 2011, Hall was the established name in 1984.” [Hardball Times]

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Tony takes his first crack at the 2012 Tribe organizational depth chart. [Indians Prospect Insider]

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