The Stanford game on Thursday, convinced some that the Pac-10 is doing what ever it can to help UCLA get that #1 seed for the NCAA Tournament. That it would be better for the Pac-10 to have UCLA be in the strongest position in the NCAA Tournament. More money, more attention, etc.The contra argument would be that it is simply the incompetence of Pac-10 refs and being influenced by the UCLA home crowd that led to the result.
Let's just say that after Cal nearly pulled the upset, the conspiracy theorists are going to have more fodder for their position.
I still favor the incompetence argument of Pac-10 refs (barely), simply because the Pac-10 has been absolutely pathetic in quality officiating for some time. Still, how they managed to miss the hack by Westbrook and then called it out of bounds off of the Cal player strains beyond simply "missing the call." I can understand the "no-call" on Shipp's shot that went at an impossible angle, but missing a blatant hack?
I'd say the Pac-10 has to make a move this off-season to address the incompetency of their officiating, but they haven't done so yet in either football or basketball. Why will this year be any different?


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3-08-2008 @ 10:14PM
tien said...
Yup--as a UCLA alum I have to admit that wasn't a foul on Thursday, it was a foul today, and that shot shouldn't have counted.
But we'll take it.
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3-09-2008 @ 12:31AM
k harano said...
Yeah, but you guys shouldn't take it and neither should Cal. UCLA may have won this game but they really lost.
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3-09-2008 @ 12:12PM
bob oleary said...
they swallowed there whistles and rule states u cant score from behind the basket.
plus they looked at the replay for time left and still no assistant from cal. went to ? the hack or the basket made or the out of bounds play
home cookin baby home cookin i just hope they get suspended for the rest of the year
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3-09-2008 @ 12:13PM
calfan said...
It's truly sad to see a conference with so much talent on the players' side, the coaches' side, the university side to have the absolute worst officiating in the country. something seems fishy and it is becoming apparent around the country. the credibility of the conference is at stake when nationally televised games are thrown in such a blatant way. ucla has an awesome team but taking wins this way hurts everyone.
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3-09-2008 @ 12:13PM
a arm said...
Ok, the foul on Thursday really wasn't but did you watch the entire game? The refs were not in any way helping the Bruins, Stanford clearly had some no calls in their favor including charges and a double dribble. If Stanford was the better team they would have won in overtime - and they didn't.
As far as Cal - I don't know how you can say that it was a foul on Anderson, the camera angles do not show a clear hack from Westbrook.
Refs in all conferences can make horrible calls, but to me this seems like an attack on the Pac-10. Would it be the same if this had happened to Duke or Carolina - I think not.
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3-09-2008 @ 12:14PM
pac10fan said...
lol! just do us a favor ucla fans... don't moan and groan when you don't get the calls. you got two gifts, resulting in two wins... you're not that good.
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3-09-2008 @ 12:14PM
a arm said...
Ok, it might not have been a foul on Thursday but did you watch the entire game? If so you would have seen that the refs were in no way helping the bruins. Stanford was on the receiving end of many non-calls including charges and a double dribble. If Stanford were the better team they would have been able to pull off the win in overtime. UCLA fought against the refs throughout the game and came back to win.
As for the game against Cal, there is no camera angle showing that Westbrook "hacked" Anderson but it does show that the ball was last touched by him.
Refs from any conference make horrible calls, this seems to me to be an attack on the Pac-10 (would these discussions be occurring if it were Duke, Carolina or even Memphis? I think not).In no way was the outcome of either of these games decided by 1 bad call - remember that both teams, Stanford and Cal, gave up a double digit lead.
If you ask me the worst officiating non-call (in the Pac-10) was when Washington's Tim Morris threw the ball in Aboya's face off an inbounds - what happened to off the feet? I understand that there is no official rule against it but to allow it is a disgrace. If no disciplinary action was going to be taken by the officials, the coach should have done something. I can tell you that Ben Howland and any other respectable coach would never have approved of any of his players doing that.
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3-09-2008 @ 12:15PM
John B. said...
Unfortunately, Ben Braun and Cal got jobbed at the end by officials that, at least subconsciously, want to see UCLA get that #1 seed in the NCAA tournament. College BB is such a big business that I wouldn't be surprised if the Pac Ten Conference has "encouraged" officials to make calls that "help" the right schools. After all, the officials work for the Pac Ten...
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3-09-2008 @ 7:38PM
rock said...
The best officials don't work college ball, the best of the ones available, who make it there career do. That crew was Brutal.
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3-09-2008 @ 9:57PM
pmf said...
They cheated.
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3-09-2008 @ 10:39PM
goallineinc said...
It's that DICKHEAD Bill Walton's fault....that's the way I see it!!!!!!!!!!!
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3-10-2008 @ 10:19AM
Robear20 said...
First off I will say I am a UCLA fan and I may be biased on this issue but.... I think it is funny that almost all the posts here are bashing the Bruins and the officials and none of you are seeing the bigger picture.
#1. Thursday night Stanford had a 16 point lead late in the second half.
#2. Saturday Cal had an 11 point lead late in the second half.
AND NEITHER OF THEM COULD HOLD THE LEAD!!!!
So quit saying that the better team in both cases did not win because the better team in both cases did win.
As far as the so called "bad calls" by the officiating crews get over it, Kevin Love is pounded every game including the two games in question and he get's the call maybe every fifth time so it goes both ways.
Stanford and Cal should learn how to hold a second half lead and then maybe you all wouldn't be crying about one "bad call" at the end of the game.
As far as the person (pac10fan) who said UCLA "is not that good" you should realize that UCLA is BETTER than 9 other teams in the PAC TEN right now.
Take the loss and suck it up, you didn't see Bruin fans on these boards crying every time the Bruins lost this year regardless of how many "bad calls" there might have been.
GO BRUINS!!
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3-10-2008 @ 10:19AM
andrew said...
The foul was called on Thursday for the body contact and it was the right call. Remember, officials hate to blow the whistle in the last minute of the game and for one to make a call, it has to be obvious, and it was. I didn't see a foul when Westbrook stole the ball so a no call was the right call. Shipp's shot however, should not have counted, but I will take it. Shipp has been stinking it up for the past few months but boy he really redeemed himself on this one.
Go Bruins
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3-10-2008 @ 4:06PM
WWKeelor said...
Having read (SF, LA and NY papers) about the fouls and now having watched all the replays, I think the big loser is Bill McCabe
The most interesting foul was the Ryan Anderson inbounds near the end of the Cal game. Anderson said, “He had his hand on my back and I went down. That makes it a foul”. While that statement is true, it is not at all clear that Westbrook pushed Anderson and it looks more like Anderson tripped or flopped. What is interesting is that the day before McCabe had told the refs not to call questionable fouls at the end of games, so the refs were doing as instructed.
With regard to the Shipp basket, the ball clearly went over the backboard and even thought the rule was not conceived to invalidate that shot, it is clear that the shot was illegal. The referee’s stance is that the shot was illegal if it went over the backboard, but in their eyes it did not. I have seen the play from several angles and in some, it is hard to tell. If there were instant replay (which I do not favor), the call would be overturned, but there is not.
If you get a chance to read the LA Times and the SFExaminer, it is fun as the slant is completely different. Personally, I think the big loser is McCabe who did a terrible job of cleaning this up. He should have been more definitive on whether the calls were good or bad independent of the outcome. As it is, you can’t tell what he thinks or what he would want a ref to do in the future. I predict that he doesn’t last long in this job.
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3-10-2008 @ 7:35PM
mike said...
the head of the pac 10 officials called trent johnson and apoligized for the bad call. You're nuts
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