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May 11, 2008 | Last Updated: 5/11/08 11:01 PM ET | Comments (135)
Great Unknown: Special Teams Get A Makeover

In this case, the numbers didn't lie. The Eagles ranked 24th in the league last season in kickoff return average, 24th in punt return average and were 29th in net punt return average. Too, the Eagles allowed an average of 11.4 yards per punt return to rank 28th in the NFL.

Not good enough.

So one of the underlying themes of the offseason was to improve the special teams, through and through. By adding veterans like Rocky Boiman and Dan Klecko and drafting players like DeSean Jackson and Quintin Demps, the Eagles think they have made a positive step forward. But we don't know just how the special teams will fall into line until the season, and even at that point it's a week-by-week proposition. Until the group jells and plays with consistency, special teams in the NFL are a dicey group to watch.

Make no mistake, the Eagles have to be a lot better this year than they were last year in every phase of special teams. In theory, yeah, the return game should be popping with Jackson settling under punts. No matter the transition period frmo college, Jackson's explosiveness is a welcome addition after watching the sure-handed, but relatively leaden-footed, Reno Mahe in 2007. I give Mahe all the credit in the world for making himself into an NFL player, and his four-season run in Philadelphia had its moments. But he wasn't the take-it-to-the-house threat the Eagles needed, and the return game -- a disaster in the opening-day loss to the Packers -- was only OK in the punt return game the rest of the season and was only a tad better in the kickoff return game wtih Correll Buckhalter and J.R. Reed after a slow start.

Now it's on to a new look for second-year coordinator Rory Segrest, who was one of the many questions marks on this unit a year. The Eagles paid for putting all of their return eggs in the basket of Jeremy Bloom. They held an open competition at punter between incumbent Dirk Johnson and newcomer Sav Rocca. They hoped long snapper Jon Dorenbos would be the answer for 16 games. They needed some of their young players to learn the ropes on the go and form a special teams core very quickly.

Some of those hopes came through. Rocca beat out Johnson and then had a good, solid first year in the NFL. Dorenbos was outstanding, and he earned a long-term contract extension at the end of the season. Some of those young players, including Stewart Bradley, Hank Baskett and Akeem Jordan, blossomed on special teams and become a reliable core by the time December rolled around.

But in the end, the numbers didn't add up. The Eagles didn't dominate on special teams. They went back to the drawing board in the offseason.

How does it look now? Well, the core is still here. Bradley, though, is likely to move off of special teams now that he is the starting middle linebacker. But Baskett and Jordan are there, and players like Brent Celek, Greg Lewis, Joselio Hanson and some of the young draft picks are going to have to step up and make a good wedge for the return game and cover kicks and make plays.

Rocca should be, in his second season, entirely better than he was in 2007. His performance in the post-draft camp was much more consistent than a year ago. We should see the best of Rocca in 2008. At placekicker, David Akers has his usual leg strength and is working to straighten out the kinks that cost him a few kicks last season.

Jackson is a key, of course, but it's not even a given that he will be the guy in the return game. Demps is making the coaches take a second look and he wants a piece of the return game pie, too. Jackson is the logical front runner on punts, and he is a tremendously exciting prospect. Who returns kickoffs? Jackson is a candidate. Demps is a candidate. Buckhalter and Reed are experienced and hoping to build on the momentum from some returns late last year.

Instead of overhauling the special teams, the Eagles added to the group in the offseason. They tweaked here and there, and also added a dynamic presence in Jackson. Now, with Segrest at the helm for a second season, the Eagles have something to work with. This is not working from the ground up. This is working with a foundation and trying to create something that is stronger in every phase than it was a season ago.

Of course, everything is jibberish at the moment. The roster changes from day to day once training camp starts. Segrest wins some battles and loses some battles when it comes time to determining the 53-man roster. Numbers mean everything then.

The Eagles know that they need this phase of the game to be a starkly different group than it was in Segrest's inagural season as the coordinator. They want to dominate. They need to dominate. They've made the necessary changes to give themselves a chance to do so.

Great Unknown: Special Teams Get A Makeover
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JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
11:00 pm
Oh and on the "I thought for sure" stories... Jason Short use to wear those long skin tight white sleeves. Took me a year to get a good look and notice he was a Black dude. Just always saw his arms and thought he was Whitey. lol.
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
10:57 pm
Thats 1 U-G-L-Y woman.
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
10:56 pm
How long does Camp last?
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
10:55 pm
The singer for 4-non blondes was a girl?
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
10:54 pm
Nice story on Booker. Thats a big pickup for us. I doubt people realize. He can do what #36 does. So if #36 goes out? We can still run our O. In the past when #36 went out we changed to more of a run game. And it didn't work out well for 1 reason or another. I'm all for the run game but History says we are better off tossin it all over Hell's creation. Sorry b4. You know I'm with you just sayin what I see. It's not really different to have Booker come in when you compare it to Buck or Hunt takin the reigns. Thats totally different. Booker was a big 1.
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
10:37 pm
No rattlesnake oil. But thats all I can promise.
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
10:36 pm
What's the date on that again? I've never been and would like to go. This year better than most. But I have trouble planning ahead. I'd actually like to drive up there. But I could fly. Rental car is might be. Let me get these dates and check it out. Get back to ya. But yeah... I'll try to go. End of July?
brizer9@...
05/12/08
8:29 pm
I'll come,..if gallstones promises not to cry (again)....and JB stops mixing hallucinogens with rattle snake oil.
szupa@tbspa.com
05/12/08
8:19 pm
Damn, maine? that gets pa loudspeaker priveleges too. I've gotten behind the ropes the last3 years because myfriend has a friend. If the guy with the passes were my direct contact I would givemy word now but he's not. I am confident though
szupa@tbspa.com
05/12/08
8:17 pm
New england has that whole "hey dope the rest of the country is laughing at you" thing going on just like new york so I can imagine. They cling to football as much as new york because what else do they have? kgall while you were composing that very interesting statistic did you notice that the giants haven't had winning records for 2 years in a row since god knows when? I wonder how long it's been since they had a non-embarrassing record for 3?
szupa@tbspa.com
05/12/08
8:17 pm
New england has that whole "hey dope the rest of the country is laughing at you" thing going on just like new york so I can imagine. They cling to football as much as new york because what else do they have? kgall while you were composing that very interesting statistic did you notice that the giants haven't had winning records for 2 years in a row since god knows when? I wonder how long it's been since they had a non-embarrassing record for 3?
kgall
05/12/08
8:13 pm
Soupy, I'm in!! I'd be traveling from Maine, but Philly is my homeland...Let me know if you're for real!
szupa@tbspa.com
05/12/08
8:09 pm
O.K. who is seriously going to eagles training Camp? Let me know now and I'll start working on getting the passes for behind the ropes, 30 feet away from the scrimage. I'm being sincere here, JB99 if you come all the way from texas for training camp I'll get you behind the ropes and get it announced over the pa, bri, alcov, MGDAWK, kgall, who's going? On a separate note Rory "same 'ol story" Segrest scares the hell out of me. I hope he knows how to use Jackson. don't feel bad JB about Rory, I thoughtMichael Bolton was BLACK for about 2 years until I saw him, I thought the singer for the 4 non blondes was a guy, and still do, and I still don't know if tracey chapman is a guy or a girl, damn androgynous name!
kgall
05/12/08
8:02 pm
Here are some stats from this decade for all of us Eagles fans (including Baby Blue) to enjoy: The Philadelphia Eagles = 83 wins, 45 losses, .658 winning pct, 2913 PF, 2257 PA. The New Jersey Giants: 68 wins, 60 losses, .531 winning pct, 2526 PF, 2607 PA. Not a bad comparison at all. The major cause of the huge discrepancies is probably the Giants horrendous habit of tanking it during the 2nd half of the year. I give all the credit in the world to the Giants for pulling off the upset against the Pats (I live in an area of the country that is packed with Pats fans -- most annoying bunch you could imagine), but they simply are outclassed by the Eagles as an organization. You think Eli isn't going to revert to the normal Eli? Good luck with that. A little food for thought for the evening.
brizer9@...
05/12/08
7:25 pm
Booker,...intelligent, committed, hungry, impressive..check it out... http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=e914fffc-9858-496d-9a09-ca24df0b3445
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
7:15 pm
PIGEON SAGA CONTINUES....FANS ALL BARK..NO BITE....COMPLAIN YEAR AFTER YEAR CAUSE THEY CAN'T WIN CHAMPIONSHIP....HEZBOLLAH SHOULD BLOWWW THE RAMPS..
brizer9@...
05/12/08
6:41 pm
If you can't handle the heat, get outa da kitchen,..geniuses. You want the truth?...you can't handle the truth. You give me too much credit,..I'm not that clever (not allowing someone to speak their mind) Perk up, Gallstones..yur wining disappoints me...like JB said previously,..you've had some great posts...and perhaps some dopey ones..big deal.....act like an EAGLE,,..boy!..and grow some thick skin,..black or white,.don't matter to me..and for the record,.Rory better perk up,..too...personally,.I think he stinks,..he needs to improve big time,..now he def has some weapons..no excuses.
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:21 pm
SZUPA: YOUR MOM LIKES THE TROJAN MAGNUMS...WHEN U GET OFF FROM WORK AT WAWA'S OR RITA WATER ICE LEAVE EM WITH HER AT THE TRAILOR PARK HOME OFF RT.202 OKAY...
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:21 pm
SZUPA: YOUR MOM LIKES THE TROJAN MAGNUMS...WHEN U GET OFF FROM WORK AT WAWA'S OR RITA WATER ICE LEAVE EM WITH HER AT THE TRAILOR PARK HOME OFF RT.202 OKAY...
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:21 pm
SZUPA: YOUR MOM LIKES THE TROJAN MAGNUMS...WHEN U GET OFF FROM WORK AT WAWA'S OR RITA WATER ICE LEAVE EM WITH HER AT THE TRAILOR PARK HOME OFF RT.202 OKAY...
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:21 pm
SZUPA: YOUR MOM LIKES THE TROJAN MAGNUMS...WHEN U GET OFF FROM WORK AT WAWA'S OR RITA WATER ICE LEAVE EM WITH HER AT THE TRAILOR PARK HOME OFF RT.202 OKAY...
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:21 pm
SZUPA: YOUR MOM LIKES THE TROJAN MAGNUMS...WHEN U GET OFF FROM WORK AT WAWA'S OR RITA WATER ICE LEAVE EM WITH HER AT THE TRAILOR PARK HOME OFF RT.202 OKAY...
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:21 pm
SZUPA: YOUR MOM LIKES THE TROJAN MAGNUMS...WHEN U GET OFF FROM WORK AT WAWA'S OR RITA WATER ICE LEAVE EM WITH HER AT THE TRAILOR PARK HOME OFF RT.202 OKAY...
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:19 pm
DYNASTY BEGINS!!!! ORDER IS RESTORED...
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:18 pm
13 TH RANKED...THAT'S KINDA HIGH U THINK..
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:18 pm
NOTICE HOW NFL.COM AND ESPN.COM PUT ELI'S FACE, BRADY, PEYTON, AND **** ROMO ON THE FRONT PAGE....WHERE'S MCMUFFIN????? MY BAD....
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:16 pm
AT LEAST THE BILLS MADE IT TO 4 SUPER BOWLS BUT BO ONE REMEBERS LOSERS.....OR THE 4 TRIPS THE BILLS MAKE..HARSH REALITY..........
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:16 pm
THE BILLS VS. PIGEONS IN THE CHOKE BOWL...SPONSORED BY CHUNKY SOUP
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:14 pm
DON'T 4GET 2 POST ON SATURDAY NIGHT!!! OKAY....
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:14 pm
DON'T 4GET 2 POST ON SATURDAY NIGHT!!! OKAY....
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:12 pm
DAMN THESE KIDS AND PEOPLE ON THIS PHOTO GALLERY ARE U-G-L-Y!!! MY GOSH...NO WONDER EUROPE THINKS AMERICA IS FAT...I THINK THE PHILTH-ADELPHIANS GO TO EUROPE DURING AUGUST...WASTE OF SPERM.....BIG UP 2 BIG BLUE AND CREW....SOUTH JERSEY WRECKING CREW.COM BIG UP!!! HOLD IT DOWN THERE...C YA IN OCTOBER WHEN I DRIVE DOWN TO CHILL 4 A GAME..
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:12 pm
DAMN THESE KIDS AND PEOPLE ON THIS PHOTO GALLERY ARE U-G-L-Y!!! MY GOSH...NO WONDER EUROPE THINKS AMERICA IS FAT...I THINK THE PHILTH-ADELPHIANS GO TO EUROPE DURING AUGUST...WASTE OF SPERM.....BIG UP 2 BIG BLUE AND CREW....SOUTH JERSEY WRECKING CREW.COM BIG UP!!! HOLD IT DOWN THERE...C YA IN OCTOBER WHEN I DRIVE DOWN TO CHILL 4 A GAME..
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:12 pm
DAMN THESE KIDS AND PEOPLE ON THIS PHOTO GALLERY ARE U-G-L-Y!!! MY GOSH...NO WONDER EUROPE THINKS AMERICA IS FAT...I THINK THE PHILTH-ADELPHIANS GO TO EUROPE DURING AUGUST...WASTE OF SPERM.....BIG UP 2 BIG BLUE AND CREW....SOUTH JERSEY WRECKING CREW.COM BIG UP!!! HOLD IT DOWN THERE...C YA IN OCTOBER WHEN I DRIVE DOWN TO CHILL 4 A GAME..
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:12 pm
DAMN THESE KIDS AND PEOPLE ON THIS PHOTO GALLERY ARE U-G-L-Y!!! MY GOSH...NO WONDER EUROPE THINKS AMERICA IS FAT...I THINK THE PHILTH-ADELPHIANS GO TO EUROPE DURING AUGUST...WASTE OF SPERM.....BIG UP 2 BIG BLUE AND CREW....SOUTH JERSEY WRECKING CREW.COM BIG UP!!! HOLD IT DOWN THERE...C YA IN OCTOBER WHEN I DRIVE DOWN TO CHILL 4 A GAME..
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
6:12 pm
Hey Gay Blue... Tell the truth... Are you EAGLES Fan? We think you are. No self respecting giants fan would humiliate themselves like you do. You gotta be an EAGLES Fan...
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
6:11 pm
Sorry kgal... nice jesture... but I take nothin I didn't earn myself. Money is excluded of course.
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:09 pm
COULD ONLY IMAGINE WHAT WAUFFLE AND SPAGS ARE GONNA DO TO THIS DEFENSE THIS YEAR....CAN'T WAIT..THE DYNASTY BEGINS....FIN LOADED WITH TALENT!!!!!!!! LOADED!!!! WHAT A RUSH BEING WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:09 pm
COULD ONLY IMAGINE WHAT WAUFFLE AND SPAGS ARE GONNA DO TO THIS DEFENSE THIS YEAR....CAN'T WAIT..THE DYNASTY BEGINS....FIN LOADED WITH TALENT!!!!!!!! LOADED!!!! WHAT A RUSH BEING WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:09 pm
COULD ONLY IMAGINE WHAT WAUFFLE AND SPAGS ARE GONNA DO TO THIS DEFENSE THIS YEAR....CAN'T WAIT..THE DYNASTY BEGINS....FIN LOADED WITH TALENT!!!!!!!! LOADED!!!! WHAT A RUSH BEING WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:09 pm
COULD ONLY IMAGINE WHAT WAUFFLE AND SPAGS ARE GONNA DO TO THIS DEFENSE THIS YEAR....CAN'T WAIT..THE DYNASTY BEGINS....FIN LOADED WITH TALENT!!!!!!!! LOADED!!!! WHAT A RUSH BEING WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:09 pm
COULD ONLY IMAGINE WHAT WAUFFLE AND SPAGS ARE GONNA DO TO THIS DEFENSE THIS YEAR....CAN'T WAIT..THE DYNASTY BEGINS....FIN LOADED WITH TALENT!!!!!!!! LOADED!!!! WHAT A RUSH BEING WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:09 pm
COULD ONLY IMAGINE WHAT WAUFFLE AND SPAGS ARE GONNA DO TO THIS DEFENSE THIS YEAR....CAN'T WAIT..THE DYNASTY BEGINS....FIN LOADED WITH TALENT!!!!!!!! LOADED!!!! WHAT A RUSH BEING WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:08 pm
HUFF AND PUFF AND BLOW THIS COMMENTS BOX DOWN...HAHAHA!!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:08 pm
HUFF AND PUFF AND BLOW THIS COMMENTS BOX DOWN...HAHAHA!!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:08 pm
HUFF AND PUFF AND BLOW THIS COMMENTS BOX DOWN...HAHAHA!!!!
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
6:08 pm
Over time... I really think Bri is right. Test-Tube Baby is EAGLES fan and is just Trollin. Theres no way a giants fan would come on every day and post some nonsense. He's got to be reading this stuff. In fact he replies to what is said. So I know he reads it. Gotta be a dumba** EAGLES fan. Even as pitiful as ny is and as furious as the giants fans must be at EAGLES given them beat down for 10 years... Surely... Surely... Surely... it's not a real giants fan. === And if for some reason it was a real giants fan? That is the Biggest Loser in the History of the Internet. Do anyone understand the patheticness you would have to show to be The Biggest Loser On the Net? You'd have to take it pretty far. Far beyond 1's normal idiotness. Far beyond 1's effort to make himself look horrible. Far beyond postin so many times he makes himself look childish and stupid. He would have to come on and say the same thing over and over. Post it 50 times an piece. And wait... for anyone to make comment. Then jump on and post 50 more. Usually within 20 minutes of reply. UNBELIEVEABLE. Srahan would kick his a** out of ny if he could find him. Or if he knew there were actually people like that out there. What a disgrace! lol. If we have seen the last of him? Whick I doubt... that would be a sad day. Cause I still Dream of the day he actually shows up at camp like he says he does with his giants jersey with a Messier sticker sewed on... and I pound this little girl to submission. Rip her head clean off it's cerebral stem and watch her twitch around in little circles like a plasma sprinkler on the EAGLES practice field. I'd be laughin and cryin tears of joy as the Bethlehem Police cart me off to the squad car. I'd do a quick 40 years for 5 minutes with The Test-tube Baby. Not to mention a few days in Hell whilst Jesus and dem figure out what I have done was noble act humanity by putting a Loser out of her Misery. I'd be surfin that lake of fire... high 5'n Satan every time I came around and laugh as "Our Boy" pokes Gay Blue into that fire pit wth his red hot Pitch fork every 3-4 seconds when he surfaces. And if Satan has trouble holdin on to that pitcher with his furry Goat hands or whatever he uses I'd swim over occasionally to put my Red Wing heel on TT Babies already broken nose to grind away as he slips under the lava again. While I giggle like a school girl watchin his Mother wash his blood from the bottom of my boots. It's good to have Goals and Dreams!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:08 pm
WORLD CHAMPIONS U SUCKERS!!!!! JEALOUS ONES ENVY!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:08 pm
WORLD CHAMPIONS U SUCKERS!!!!! JEALOUS ONES ENVY!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:08 pm
WORLD CHAMPIONS U SUCKERS!!!!! JEALOUS ONES ENVY!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:08 pm
WORLD CHAMPIONS U SUCKERS!!!!! JEALOUS ONES ENVY!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:08 pm
WORLD CHAMPIONS U SUCKERS!!!!! JEALOUS ONES ENVY!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:08 pm
WORLD CHAMPIONS U SUCKERS!!!!! JEALOUS ONES ENVY!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:07 pm
DUDE BETHLEHEM....WHAT IS THERE TO DO AND LOOK FORWARD 2 IN LIFE IN BETHLEHEM...MAYBE MAIN LINE??? NO WONDER YOUR BRAINWASHED LIKE TEXAS 2 STEP..
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:07 pm
DUDE BETHLEHEM....WHAT IS THERE TO DO AND LOOK FORWARD 2 IN LIFE IN BETHLEHEM...MAYBE MAIN LINE??? NO WONDER YOUR BRAINWASHED LIKE TEXAS 2 STEP..
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:07 pm
DUDE BETHLEHEM....WHAT IS THERE TO DO AND LOOK FORWARD 2 IN LIFE IN BETHLEHEM...MAYBE MAIN LINE??? NO WONDER YOUR BRAINWASHED LIKE TEXAS 2 STEP..
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:06 pm
AND CARL BANKS, LT 56, CARSON, PEPPER JOHNSON, AND SIMMS, AND MORRIS LAUGH ON INTO THE SUNSET WITH A FEW RINGS......PRICELESS!!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:06 pm
AND CARL BANKS, LT 56, CARSON, PEPPER JOHNSON, AND SIMMS, AND MORRIS LAUGH ON INTO THE SUNSET WITH A FEW RINGS......PRICELESS!!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:06 pm
AND CARL BANKS, LT 56, CARSON, PEPPER JOHNSON, AND SIMMS, AND MORRIS LAUGH ON INTO THE SUNSET WITH A FEW RINGS......PRICELESS!!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:06 pm
AND CARL BANKS, LT 56, CARSON, PEPPER JOHNSON, AND SIMMS, AND MORRIS LAUGH ON INTO THE SUNSET WITH A FEW RINGS......PRICELESS!!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:06 pm
AND CARL BANKS, LT 56, CARSON, PEPPER JOHNSON, AND SIMMS, AND MORRIS LAUGH ON INTO THE SUNSET WITH A FEW RINGS......PRICELESS!!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:06 pm
AND CARL BANKS, LT 56, CARSON, PEPPER JOHNSON, AND SIMMS, AND MORRIS LAUGH ON INTO THE SUNSET WITH A FEW RINGS......PRICELESS!!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:06 pm
AND CARL BANKS, LT 56, CARSON, PEPPER JOHNSON, AND SIMMS, AND MORRIS LAUGH ON INTO THE SUNSET WITH A FEW RINGS......PRICELESS!!!!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:05 pm
AND J.BROWN ATE TOOOO MANY TASTY CAKES AND FELL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL ON A1A
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:05 pm
AND J.BROWN ATE TOOOO MANY TASTY CAKES AND FELL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL ON A1A
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:05 pm
AND J.BROWN ATE TOOOO MANY TASTY CAKES AND FELL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL ON A1A
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:05 pm
AND J.BROWN ATE TOOOO MANY TASTY CAKES AND FELL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL ON A1A
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:05 pm
AND J.BROWN ATE TOOOO MANY TASTY CAKES AND FELL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL ON A1A
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:05 pm
AND J.BROWN ATE TOOOO MANY TASTY CAKES AND FELL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL ON A1A
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:05 pm
AND J.BROWN ATE TOOOO MANY TASTY CAKES AND FELL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL ON A1A
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:05 pm
AND J.BROWN ATE TOOOO MANY TASTY CAKES AND FELL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL ON A1A
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:05 pm
AND J.BROWN ATE TOOOO MANY TASTY CAKES AND FELL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL ON A1A
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:05 pm
AND J.BROWN ATE TOOOO MANY TASTY CAKES AND FELL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL ON A1A
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:05 pm
AND J.BROWN ATE TOOOO MANY TASTY CAKES AND FELL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL ON A1A
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:04 pm
SZUPA: DIDN'T ANDRE WATERS BLOW HIS BRAINS OUT CAUSE THE WAY THE PIGEONS WERE LOSING????
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:04 pm
SZUPA: DIDN'T ANDRE WATERS BLOW HIS BRAINS OUT CAUSE THE WAY THE PIGEONS WERE LOSING????
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:04 pm
SZUPA: DIDN'T ANDRE WATERS BLOW HIS BRAINS OUT CAUSE THE WAY THE PIGEONS WERE LOSING????
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:04 pm
SZUPA: DIDN'T ANDRE WATERS BLOW HIS BRAINS OUT CAUSE THE WAY THE PIGEONS WERE LOSING????
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:04 pm
SZUPA: DIDN'T ANDRE WATERS BLOW HIS BRAINS OUT CAUSE THE WAY THE PIGEONS WERE LOSING????
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:04 pm
SZUPA: DIDN'T ANDRE WATERS BLOW HIS BRAINS OUT CAUSE THE WAY THE PIGEONS WERE LOSING????
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:04 pm
SZUPA: DIDN'T ANDRE WATERS BLOW HIS BRAINS OUT CAUSE THE WAY THE PIGEONS WERE LOSING????
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:04 pm
STENOSIS MAKES DAWK THE CHEAP ARTIST PUNK RETIRE BY EARLY OCTOBER....HAHAH!
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:03 pm
AND THE GIANTS STOMP THE PIGEONS AGAIN....TALK BOUT OWNING THE RECORD RIVALRY..
supremeblue56@...
05/12/08
6:03 pm
AND THE GIANTS STOMP THE PIGEONS AGAIN....TALK BOUT OWNING THE RECORD RIVALRY..
kgall
05/12/08
5:44 pm
No sweat, JB. And to prove there are no hard feelings, I am gifting you both of my "first post" wins, so you can add 2 to your tally. In fact, although I'll never explicitly post a "first" comment, I will implicitly grant you ownership of a win each time I actually post first.
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
5:43 pm
I wouldn't say I real picky bout what posters post. But I did fire my house keeper for hangin my toilet paper in the improper overhand fashion. Would that be considered picky?
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
5:36 pm
Don't remember drillin kgals comments. Although I'll admit it's hard to keep up with so many. kgal seems to have pretty good posts for the most part. Let me look here.... Nope. You not on my Official EAGLES Dog Meat list. I think your clear.
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
5:33 pm
And another thing.... didn't realize till I was on vacation and talkin to my buddy.... But McGlynn was the guy that got into a REAL fist fight every day at the Senior Bowl. Just didn't place that when we picked him. Thats my kinda guy. I love McGlynn. Seriously he fought at least 1 good fight at every practice. Usually with our boy Red Bryant. But there were plenty of others. I've went back and watched some to make sure. He's Manimal. Also read nothin but good stuff from him by some of the coaches at Senior Bowl. Good stuff from that guy.
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
5:28 pm
Walkin past the TV... saw somethin goin to commercial on NFL live or NFL network bout fights in mini camp. Could have sworn I saw McGlynn poundin somebody. Maybe Runyan tossin a helmet bout 80' into the air. Did anyone see that? I forgot to go back and watch after commercial. === Also hear giants and ravens got pounded at mini camp by injuries. giants lost 3. ravnes lost 2 including a pretty good TE. TE out for season I think. After last year... let that be a lesson to us all... we don't need more injuries this year. WE are lucky to see us injury-free after the first camp.
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
5:23 pm
I'm suprised to see Demps... He looks good. Natural change of direction. That seems to be the biggest deal when returning Punts and Kicks. He's a natural. Saw some of his stuff on youtube and I think it was Scout or maybe it was Rivals. Think it was Scout. But yeah... he's a natural. Wouldn't shock me at all to see him return Punts over DJ. Big Plays? Demps? We'll see them plenty.
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
5:19 pm
I was too busy counting my chickens so to speak... So happy I got No. 1 I forgot to post somethin other than my odd ability to not see color of skin when determining the ability of ST coaches to coach correctly. Not sure whats wrong with me... All I know is that Cracker needs to get it turned around quick. If he can't get it done with all this... He's OUT!!! Black or White!!!
kgall
05/12/08
5:19 pm
Bri, my comment stemmed from your refusal to let pianoman speak his mind yesterday ("Thank God another football mind aboard....it's amazing just how little football some fans know and how adamant they are about thinking they know it.") Anyhoo, I apologize if I'm mistaking you for someone else, but I seem to remember you and JB downplaying other folks' opinions and telling folks they don't know squat about football. I know JB has personally called my posts worthless, and I thought I remembered you siding with him. If I'm "misremembering" (thanks for the cool new word, Roger Clemens!) then I certainly apologize. Anyway, enough of this. Maybe this forum is finally going to be Baby Blue-proofed, which would be a damn good thing. Then the rest of us can have a love-in or sing Kumbaya or something. Whatever it takes to get back on track and have ANY opinions on the Birds freely spoken. And BTW, how the hell have I won the "first post" game TWICE when I hate it so much?? LOL
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
5:15 pm
I just noticed that gallstones comment. Thats a good 1. Wish I would have thought that up.... but as usual a little slow over here. === No offense meant kgallstones... just kinda witty in a childish name calling way. Got a quick giggle. Wish I woulda had amore pokin fun name. How do you change this stuff?
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
5:11 pm
Bout kgal post... I drill whom I think are Trolls. But even though I might differ with others thoughts your more than welcome to feed'em here. Thats what this place is for. However... If you come on here and say we haven't got better or... oddly enough as the dude yesterday was trying to say... Booker was traded for any other reason than Phins got new FO and Coach. That... to me... is ridiculous. Not many TEAMS would draft a guy in the 3rd or 4th round only to trade them the next draft day for the exqct same thing. You will not know anything bout the guy in 1 year. There is 1 explanation only. Phins were going different direction and EAGLES wanted him. To say they drafted a guy and traded him for the same the next year would be... not right. Toss in the fact that it's Parcells who doesn't really make dumb moves and it's as close to 100% as you can get. So I might mention that. That and the fact EAGLE TE never had more than 6 TD's in REID era. And then you rip a guy who had 55 and 5 as not getting the job done. Just doesn't make sense. But by no means am I sayin Pianodude is wrong. I might think that but who am I to say? Pianodude can think LJ sucks if he wants to. I don't. But he can. And I'm afraid I'll have to agree with Bri again that Phins let Booker go cause they are tryin to rebuild and a 4th rounder would be downright pleasant for Parcells to build depth in that D and O-line he's got problems with. They will keep a bunch of backs over 220. However to show I am always see'n both sides... this on Pianodudes behalf... Parcells usually keeps a 3rd down guy. Dave Meggett type. Not sure if Avion Cason was around in Dallas... but thats a name that pops into my head. So maybe we are wrong. But I didn't see anybody gettin ripped on here. No doubt people get a little flustered. But that goes with the Game. As usual I like most all posts. But Geez! If you hear somethin negative from me? Don't let that get you down by any means. I'm no prophet. Messiah? Maybe. But we won't know that till next January.
brizer9@...
05/12/08
5:05 pm
and you blew it JB,..you got cocky and forgot the rules...or at least the interpretation thereof...kinda like Bellisick!..ps..i wanted the stinkin giants to win,.too.
brizer9@...
05/12/08
4:55 pm
Demps looks very good and catches punts "naturally."
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
4:55 pm
How could 1 think that my post about me thinkin our White ST Coach was Black a few weeks ago? If thats not Football don't know what is. O well... back to the drawing board.
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
4:52 pm
Our D is gonna be better. We added Samuel and Clemons. Plus a few through the draft that we can't expect alot from. But we were top 10 with our best players hurting or out. I'd say Hansen might be best 4th CB around. LB's and D-line are DEEP. We are a little thin at S. I'm surprised to hear Lito is stayin Left. You'd think he'd be battlin Brown more. But they seem to keep Lito Left. At least thats what I'm hearin... that could be wrong. === Our O should be better. We should have a FB thats not scared of contact and D-Jack... plus a TE and a tough to cover 3rd down back. Then with #5 being healthly and LJ back at full strenght. You tell me how many games we are better. I'd say at least 4... if we stay relatively healthy. === Special TEAMS. Thats our biggest upgrade. We are much better there. I KNOW BOIMAN CAN PLAY. And hear good things bout Wilson. Clemons and Smith and Mays and Demps are pretty good on cover TEAMS as well you'd think. I don't even want to think who we had out there last year... but these guys have more talent FOR SURE!!! Same skill spots. Akers and Rocca need to step it up... which I'm sure they will. And don't forget Demps as KR or maybe even PR. Every time I see him return a Punt or Kick he sure does look like a natural.
brizer9@...
05/12/08
4:51 pm
Gallstones,..I must take issue with your absurd post. Quite frankly, I absolutely refrain from personal attacks. That is my modus operandi. Conversely, I have seen much more from your end. Your non-stop diatribe of BB is case in point. It matters not to me who you're ripping; you're obviously not practicing what you're preaching and in fac,, any criticism that I may direct to a poster is rather tame compared to some of your words. Also, on the contrary, I have given credit to numerous posters who have made sound arguments. If your post didn't qualify for kudos, you weren't going to receive it. I'm not here to make friends, but to make reasonable assessments of Eagles football. Am I guilty of an occasional hyperbole?..You bet,..because I also would like to have a little fun. If the "friends" follow,..that's just icing on the cake. and BTW,..I'll speak for both JB and myself here,..we DON'T think we're the only football minds around here,.I love other perspectives...and moreover,..JB don't get the #1 since he didn't offer a quality football post,..You get it, Gallstones,.for your brief commentary on Special teams...sorry, JB,.but, yur Secrest post was funny but not football.
MGDAWK
05/12/08
4:39 pm
Kgall-Ouch. Teams that ESPN is picking ahead of the Eagles this year: Vikes, Saints, Packers, Browns, Seahawks, Steelers, Giants, Jaguars, Cowgirls, Chargers, Colts, and Pats. I'd say half of those are wrong. I hope In respones to this- Take that with a grain a sand. Any of those teams can win, but, until the season actually happens, it's ALLLLL speculation. Now, I don't mind everyone else getting the attention, if the Eagles come in and get it done, then we can all sit back say FU and laugh at these analysts when the Igges weren't even on their radar. That's what makes sports GREAT
MGDAWK
05/12/08
4:35 pm
JB99- The only reason I was rooting for the Pats is the stupid NJ fans that come out of the woodwork. Now if the Pats did win, we wouldn't have to hear the puke from Gay BLUE. Although it's fun to laugh at him, he still sucks because the Giants did win. Catch 22 that will never sit well with Philly fans
MGDAWK
05/12/08
4:30 pm
That's the thing. We have the NFC championship dynasty, but that doesn't mean crap me unless they do pull one off. Now I agree with JB99 that they have a strong TEAM this year. That being said, Defense does win Championships! Manning didn't win that SB, Dilfer sure as hell didn't win that SB in 2000, but it was nice that they beat the Giants. The other Manning didn't win by himself, even with the high octane offense he had, the defense was the difference. So, how do the Eagles close the Decade? Do they actually win one? Or, do they become the beat version of the early 90's Bills teams?
szupa@tbspa.com
05/12/08
4:13 pm
Yeah that's pretty sad when you start attacking dead people. We didn't attack Armani Toomer or Sammy Knight when they died, right? Wait, they are dead aren't they? And when Michael Strahans wife left him because she caught him with apenis in his mouth did we jump on it? no! Or when the ny goofball managed to kill himself on an escalator did we say anything? NO! Wait I did, but besides me? NO! Wait and see if they put together back-to-back winning seasons before starting to talk ****, oops! I mean poop!
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
4:12 pm
The Test-Tube Baby ain't gonna meet anybody. But nice try Soupy.
MGDAWK
05/12/08
4:04 pm
I have to say that it is fun talking that smack to Gay Blue. He helps me get frustration out. Now football, I am actually excited for the first time since we had Brian Mitchell about ST. This could be a year where we are strong in all aspects, finally. I do think that the FO will do something come training camp, although I don't want to lose LITO.
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
4:02 pm
I must admit I was rootong for giants. Just wanted to shut ny up bout Manning. Theres alot of QB that can win SB. After all Dilfer won 1. That proves ANYTHING is possible. And for some reason I just don't like Pats. Brady or Bellicheck. Maybe it's cause I'm jealous of Brady's girls or maybe Bills smug Sheeteating grin he pulls as he says "We are gonna play hard and thats all you can ask for."
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
3:59 pm
On to bigger and better things... Glad to see Merrill and "Our Boy" a.k.a. Tommy Lawlor think that EAGLES got a shot. Just like me. Like I said don't see a weakness. Last year there were plenty. This year not really any at all. After all Merrill probably knows as much as anyone. And Lawlor has put in some hours I'm 100% for sure. E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
szupa@tbspa.com
05/12/08
3:58 pm
Thank you MGDAWK, for a second I thought I was going crazy. I too was actually rooting for the pats, and I was getting killed by everyone I knew. The general consensus was everyone hated the pats and wanted to see them lose because they are supposed to be the dynasty this decade. The NFC side has been inferior for the last 10 years and I can honestly say that by default, with more wins than any other nfc team and more championship appearances than any other nfc team the eagles would be the dynasty on the nfc side. Yes they only have 2 more years to win the big one and solidify the title to the dynasty. Why? Because everything they've accomplished this decade means nothing without the big one. Win 1 superbowl and then in retrospect they were the dominant team for the decade. Don't win one the next 2 years and they will be looked at as the team that came close most of the time. Everyone here wanted the giants to win because no one takes them seriously, but sees the patriots as a threat to take the dynasty title. I say after spygate that thier legacy is totally shot and no one else besides us comes close. Not that we were completely unstoppable, obviously we were but we were still the closest to dominating the nfl this decade after the pats. Would you agree?
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
3:55 pm
jalepeno = jalapeno???
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
3:53 pm
Actually Soupy... They been removing Gay Blues posts every other day for a month or so. Everytime he drops bout 50 in a row or talks smack bout Andre Waters or JB.
JeromeBrown99
05/12/08
3:52 pm
DAMN! For the first time in years I didn't check the website for 15 minutes and obviously missed The Test-Tube Baby ridiculousing himself... again. Knew I should have put off that run to the store! Knew it! But I was out of jalepeno okra. So maybe that was more important.
szupa@tbspa.com
05/12/08
3:49 pm
Well this has been a fast, productive day. I think for the first time ever we've seen posts removed from the site, good job Dave! (or whoever does this thing) Too bad it took me getting so worked up that I'm here threatening physical harm and some of the posts got removed. I know I'm better than this and it's probably just some kid screwing around but it gets old after awhile. Long story short I was "notified" of my behavior and I guess I need to stop talking to and encouraging big blue on here or I'll get banned. I really hope dope got the same message because that would be sad if he didn't (unless he got scared and reported me?) Anyway I see all his posts are gone so maybe someone is gonna babysit this thing closer and step on retards throat the moment he posts until he goes away, if thats the case I gotta warn you guys, he has ALOT of spare time on his hands. So big blue, sorry if I scared you today, you don't need to run to the cops or anything, calm down, I don't want your mom calling my mom or anything (she has been calling my grandfather alot) It's all football from here!
MGDAWK
05/12/08
3:27 pm
Szupa, I agree, I give props to the Giants for pulling of one of the greatest upsets in football history where the plays weren't videotaped before the game. Belicheat decided to give this one up. So props to the Giants. As for their fans, this is why I was rooting for New England. Their fans suck, but they aren't as bad as the Fairweather NY/NJ fans that don't know their a** from their elbow.
MGDAWK
05/12/08
3:06 pm
Escalators! Ah ha Ha HAAAAAAaaa. Ny should do itself a favor and follow the Simpsons, build an escalator to nowhere. That would fix that whole state.
szupa@tbspa.com
05/12/08
2:36 pm
MGDAWK, and still no one buys thier jerseys, but then I wouldn't buy an Eli manning jersey, he'll be with the bears in 2 years anyway. This was the last year for the draft to be there also. Congrats on the SB win fellas! By the way no one wants to come to new york for the draft anymore, don't get to cozy with 1 of your 4 primetime appearances, we made one during flex scheduling week in week 15 because you'll be 3 games out of the playoffs by then. The eagles will share one of thier 5 PRIMETIME appearances with you losers. I say we pick a day to go on the giants site also, just one because anything more than one day and we'd be as big a loser as big blue himself. We should ask them if they have escalators at giants stadium.
szupa@tbspa.com
05/12/08
2:30 pm
KGALL! I like the way you think! This dude really needs to stop giving the names of his friends place's that he works at! I checked out lotus too, it has bounce beat for the patheticness column (yes I made up a word patheticness, webster will add it to the dictionary as soon as we get a picture of big blue to go with it) But whether you look up bounce, where big blue pretended to be owner, lotus, we he pretends to bounce, or "the gym" the bar he goes to every night with his stilleto's, New york is obviously full off a-holes who think thier **** doesn't stink. KGALL, did you see the web page? Check out the pics link, 25% gay, 25% cross dressers, 25% losers and 25% ****s. At least there's women at that one though, not like bounce. Please be sure to tell us the next place your washing dishes at big blue, I love looking these places up on my lunch. KGALL, google "bounce sports bar" and check that one. Big blue used to say he "OWNED" that one. Priceless indeed
MGDAWK
05/12/08
2:26 pm
I bet you that Gay Blue does live by himself in between Strahan's gap. All that money and still shoots food at you when he talks. NASTY. He lives there then takes it from ELI because Gay Blue is his number one fan that just started to like the MIDGITS when the playoffs started.
MGDAWK
05/12/08
2:22 pm
Oh, and he is a bigger **** for telling szupa to go to NY/NJ, wherever, to fight. "I'm a big man, I am going to put crap on websites then punk out when called out." ****! If he is as big and bad as he says with his 21cm arms and his buck toothed face stuck to his Momm's boob, he will say his real name and come to the Eagle's training camp with "kick me" NJ Midgits jersey that no one else buys. I went to NY for New Years and chanted E A G L E S all night, The COPS told me to quiet down, I didn't and they couldn't do a thing about it, because, NY SUCKS MY NUTS.
MGDAWK
05/12/08
2:15 pm
I say we all go on the Giants board and just make fun of Big Puss Blue. No talk of football, just how big of a **** this guy is. He makes NY worse than it already is. Every time he talks crap, it just makes me even more happy to be from PHILLY!
kgall
05/12/08
2:12 pm
Things I don't believe about Baby Blue: 1) That he is more than 16 years old. 2) That he owns a business. 3) That he doesn't live with his parents. 4) That he has been a New Jersey Giants fan for more than a year or two. and 5) That he has a full set of 46 chromosomes.
kgall
05/12/08
2:01 pm
Some more choice reviews: "Would not recommend it to anyone..doorman is rude and selectively profiles against certain parties. the bouncers, doorman and manager all have a different story concerning entry- guest list/no guest list, cover charge, even went ahead to insist that we buy 2 drinks @ $300 each...wtf!! bar service suck even @ $15-20 a drink. No dance floor, cramped up 2 floors with bad acoustics...Drinks are extremely overpriced and the bar staff are rude. The music was ok but the crowd were horrendous!"
kgall
05/12/08
1:57 pm
LOL some choice comments about Lotus, where Baby Blue pretends to work: "FOOD: just ok, absolutely nothing special. ATMOSPHERE: obnoxious and rude. BATHROOMS: don't drink too much because there is almost no light in the bathroom...As I was exiting the club I mentioned to the club people upfront that the guard was very rude, but they were silent...Although the line was short, that was probably the only positive aspect of the night. The entire place was extremely crowded and dancing turned into being shoved back and forth by others trying to get though the crowd....While I expected a classy and upscale place, underneath, Lotus turned out to be pretensious, rude to customers, and over priced....A good cover charge and bouncers making you wait in line just to say they made you wait...the