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Tuesday Recruitin'

By Brian — July 8th, 2008 at 12:08 PM — 54 comments
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Update 7/7: Linked to articles on MA OL Brennan Williams, MS S Dennis Thames, FL S Jonathan Scott, FL CB Mywan Jackson, OK RB David Oku, AL CB Dre Kilpatrick, SC DE Chris Bonds, FL LB Brandin Hawthorne, IN OL Zach Martin (info in header).

Added MI S Thomas Gordon, OH DE Tank Carradine, LA LB Jonathan Stewart, CA OL Michael Philipp, OK DT Pearlie Graves.

Removed PA OL Adam Gress (dropped us), IL OL Chris Watt (dropped us), MS DE Josh Boyd (Miss St), OH CB Darrell Mason (not recruiting), LA WR Willie Haulstead (FSU, actually some time ago).

And here's some wild speculation on VA QB Kevin Newsome. I'm not adding MI DE Justice Akuezue yet since it seems doubtful he'll get an offer, but man, there's one for the all-name team. And, as usual, numerous links from Varsity Blue.

Editorial Opinion: Sorry about the delay; I'm about ready to throw second-string laptop out a window. Anyway...

The big-ish news: this Rivals article on IN OL Zach Martin($) indicates in the header that he's taking one more trip, then making a decision. You can use your amazing powers of deduction to infer that the visit target is Ann Arbor, and that's a terrific signal that Michigan has a significant lead. As mentioned earlier, if a recruit is approaching a commitment and one school's site is the only one breaking news/writing articles, that's a good sign for whatever school that site covers. And if a recruit is making a second visit to a school he's already seen before making a decision, that visit is usually a last opportunity to kick the tires. This is all heuristics and speculation, but Michigan appears to be in excellent shape for Martin.

Other OL bits: PA OL Adam Gress got the Penn State offer he wanted and committed there and IL OL Chris Watt's final eight doesn't include Michigan (but does include, like... Northwestern). Both of those are bleah developments, though Gress is the sort of recruit that's nice to get but not exactly a back-breaker if you don't: other offers were PSU (obviously), WVU, and Rutgers. Meh. Watt I don't get; with Ohio State filling up quickly -- they just got a commit from another instate OL -- he's got Notre Dame and a number of teams that are not traditional recruiting powers.

Meanwhile, a number of additions and clarifications. Rivals' Josh Helmholdt is now writing articles for the Free Press and drops this nugget of information on Cass Tech QB/safety Thomas Gordon:

"After the camp, I thought it was going to happen right away in the summer, and there's still a lot of time before the season starts, but right now I think they are going to see how I do this season because they really haven't seen me at safety because I didn't start last year," Gordon said. "Coach (Scott) Shafer, Coach (Tony) Dews and the rest of the coaches said they were pulling for me, but they said (an offer) is up to Coach (Rich Rodriguez)."

While Michigan may wait until this fall to see Gordon on the field in his senior season, there is a chance the Wolverines could offer even sooner than that. Either way, it's likely Michigan will offer. Gordon left little doubt he'd accept that offer and join his teammates in Ann Arbor.

Safety has the potential to fill up over the next few weeks. FL S Jonathan Scott has re-arranged his top three in a way that should be pleasing:

"Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Michigan are the three schools I have been talking to the most lately," added Jonathan Scott. "They are pretty much my top schools right now."

No offense to those programs, but I'd rather Michigan recruit against them instead of LSU, FSU, Alabama, and Auburn, all of whom Scott claims offers from. Another Florida safety, Mike Jones, -- he of the incredibly original references to a horrible rap song -- took a visit to Michigan and Notre Dame recently and came back heavily implying Michigan was his far and away leader.

And what would a recruiting update be without fretting over the commitment status of VA QB Kevin Newsome? I have no idea how much credence to lend this thread on Virginia Tech's Rivals board, but it's a further bit of smoke that Newsome's commitment is not rock solid. A lot of things don't add up about the initial "insider" post, though -- why would WVU care about Newsome with Boyd already in the fold? -- and the VT fans are by in large dismissive of the idea Newsome would end up at Tech. They've already got their eyes set on 2010's Phillip Simms, a reputed Vick clone.

Also... FL LB Brandon Hawthorne. OMG. Shirtless:

(Hawthorne is a linebacker from Florida's Pahokee high school, the home of Martavious Odoms, and he's said Michigan leads He is also sans shirt.)

Etc.: FL CB Mywan Jackson will visit soon; MS S Dennis Thames is visiting with the Tigers on a homestand.

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Posted on: July 9th, 2008 at 1:17 PM #1
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Re: Braylon, I think his
Re: Braylon, I think his story was that he was stuck in an offense that basically never threw the ball in his first two or three years, so he had no chance to show his stuff. He switched high schools (I think) and in a more pass-first offense, put up huge numbers.
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Posted on: July 9th, 2008 at 11:44 AM #2
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word on the street
is rr pays 1.5 million over three years starting in 2010, no interest, Michigan pays 2.5 in lump sum, Attorney fees are paid by each side, likely that Michigan pays RR's attorney fee. not sure bout any of that.
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Posted on: July 9th, 2008 at 10:50 AM #3
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I love how people think rich
I love how people think rich people don't mind just pissing a few million down the drain without a second thought. If I were Bill Martin, I'd much rather at least try to reduce the amount as opposed to satisfying internet football fans by whipping out the checkbook and dropping a couple mil of my own bank account.
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Posted on: July 9th, 2008 at 11:38 AM #4
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No one is saying that...
The point is that paying the $4 million upfront would've saved Michigan from a few months of unnecessary bad publicity, and afforded RR the chance to focus on getting his team ready for the season. Seems like a good investment to me.
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Posted on: July 9th, 2008 at 11:44 AM #5
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/agreed
It will be nice to have some peace and quiet around the RR camp now, and let him focus on the team without having this crap hanging over his head.
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Posted on: July 9th, 2008 at 10:30 AM #6
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I'm happy it's over too.
There's no way RR is going to pay this out of his own pocket. Sailboat Bill should have had this paid a long time ago, and saved everyone the hassle. It's not like he didn't know he had a buyout clause.
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Posted on: July 9th, 2008 at 11:51 AM #7
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this is what boosters are for
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Posted on: July 9th, 2008 at 10:11 AM #8
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Thank God this lawsuit deal
Thank God this lawsuit deal is over. Does it matter who pays what? I don't think so. I'm sure some boosters will step in and take care of what needs to be taken care of. But wasn't that pre-determined? Yeah, the fact that he paid the full amount is surprising but the fact that RR probably won't be paying anything isn't, to me, surprising at all. The amount is huge, but this is all funny money to the powers that be, as ridiculous as that sounds.
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Posted on: July 9th, 2008 at 10:24 AM #9
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Grady update
here is the latest from the NBC station in Grand Rapids...  http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8646561      
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Posted on: July 9th, 2008 at 8:46 AM #10
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According to what was flying around on Scout last night, he will not have to pay interest, and each side will pay their own attorney fees. This is one of those "wink wink" deals, if you axe me. The PUBLIC announcement has been made, but behind the scenes, RR probably isn't going to be paying anybody no four super large
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Posted on: July 9th, 2008 at 8:14 AM #11
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After all this?
If this is true, I am a little disappointed. http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080709/SPORTS06/80709021
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Posted on: July 9th, 2008 at 1:49 AM #12
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And Troy Smith, how smaller, faster D-linemen worked out when they played Florida.
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Posted on: July 9th, 2008 at 2:23 AM #13
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It's all Greek to me
Fine Doxa, I hope your realistic ass is wrong also. Let's just say I got a good feeling about this season and I'll leave it at that. BTW, Maize and Blue colored glasses are all the rage.
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 9:30 PM #14
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I know I'm 5 hours late but
I know I'm 5 hours late but Penis State? A ridiculously funny comment from BGH. I had a scary thought today. Anyone else think the fact that interior d-lineman losing significant amounts of weight might lead to getting worn down quickly by mammoth offensive lines (a.k.a. OSU's Oline). Just saying.
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 10:11 PM #15
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2005 sugar bowl, this past year's fiesta bowl. smaller doesn't mean weaker my man.
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 11:14 PM #16
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Agreed with MGoObes
Smaller, quicker, stronger D linemen are much harder to deal with than simply big ones.  Everything else equal, sure bigger is better, but it sounds like the D line will be stronger and quicker, which should yield great results on the field. Add to the fact that TT was quoted as saying he wasn't that impressed by his own performance last year, I expect he will have a huge increase in productivity.
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 8:34 PM #17
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One thing I hope we escape from on this dealio here is the fucktards who put pictures of their kids on their avatars. Word: I don't like your fucking kids and I don't want to see them. They're putrid, ugly, and they suck. Thank You.
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 8:00 PM #18
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What the fuck is a Doxa anyway
Hey Doxa why you gotta attack me for having optimism? Don't be a douchebag or an internet pussy like that. If your glass is half empty, then that's your fucking problem! Look at the schedule and if do win at least 10 games, are you gonna apologize?
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 9:44 PM #19
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Easy big guy...
I will gladly apologies if your prediction comes true, but I have a hard time seeing what you’re basing it on, besides the maze and blue lenses you see the world through. I’m all about being an optimist, but the last few years (a.k.a. reality) tells me to not get my hopes up. I love you’re optimism, but even you have to admit it’s covered in a big pile of warm Michigan loving bullshit. Here’s to you being right and me being an overly realistic ass- Go Blue! Doxa is a Greek word…
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 7:40 PM #20
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Well, I was gonna end the
Well, I was gonna end the post by calling you a pussy, but I didn't want to make you cry. And yeah- unless you've turned into a hot brunette, blonde, redhead- hell even a hot bald chick- you're not getting a hug.
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 7:58 PM #21
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thanks, yeah that probably would have hurt my feelings prety bad...
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 7:25 PM #22
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Aw........ GSims, we all
Aw........ GSims, we all missed you. Do we need a group hug? Btw, don't know if I told you but that post on pursuit angles was the shit.
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 7:27 PM #23
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thanks man i appreicate it!!!     ps,  dont even think about hugging me....just saying...
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 5:17 PM #24
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new posts up by the way.... sorry it has taken so long, not that anyone has missed me... G
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 5:00 PM #25
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Braylon, Newsome, etc
Agreed with mjvancam, what I remember was that Braylon wasn't really on anyone's radar and then he showed up to UM camp and blew everyone away. I think the story goes that his dad kept him under wraps as far as recruiting (whatever that means) and took him to UM first thinking the coaches would be interested. There was a whole story on Braylon's transition to to UM some time ago (don't recall where). All this Newsome speculation is really tiresome. That poster heard Newsome decommitted from where? Regardless of where he ends up, Newsome has my sympathy for having to deal with all the incessant rumor mongering. RR seems to have gotten the interest of some top level DB recruits recently. I wonder (with some of the offers we put out earlier) if he expected the interest level in the program to be what it is... What recruits are the best fit for the team is up to RR and staff of course. That QB throwing to the Shaq kid is dismal about 90% of the time. Although that's about average for a HS QB I guess.
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 4:13 PM #26
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Also, if Brandon Hawthorne was wearing a pair of jean shorts, maybe then (and only then) could he give T Squared a run for his money.
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 4:09 PM #27
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Braylon
As I recall, Braylon was a middling recruit until he dominated at the Michigan Camp. After that, he was a much hotter prospect.
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 4:09 PM #28
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The Newsome recruitment is
The Newsome recruitment is wierd. He verbaled to Michigan, but many of us don't think we'll see him here. His old HS coach likes Va Tech, but most Va Tech fans don't think he'll end up there. What gives? The posted link had some rumblings about Penis State, but it seemed like pure speculation. It will be interesting to watch what happens over the summer. I can't shake the feeling that Forcier ends up in the winged helmet and newsome goes somewhere else. All things considerd, I think I like Newsome the best, but if it ends up being Forcier, well, I'll still be happy.
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 3:40 PM #29
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Braylon
I think Braylon was considered a 3 star recruit; I'm sure him being a legacy recruit played a part in his recruitment. Rivals and Scout doesn't go past 2002 so can't really see info on him.
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 3:39 PM #30
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Michigan Football Will Rule Again
I can't wait for the season to start so that we can shut up all the naysayers out there. Look at RR's recruiting already, can you imagine what kind of machine we're gonna be when he's recruiting kids at an earlier age than he's had time to up until this point.....I'm getting goose bumps just thinking about it, I predict at least 10 wins this year, true story. BTW, I like the new format and the lack of bullshit comments!!!
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 4:00 PM #31
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You like the "Lack of
You like the "Lack of bullshit comments"...then why did you have to go and say were going to win 10 games!?!   Love the optimism...but it's covered in bullshit! 
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 3:32 PM #32
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Speaking of wide receivers...
Did we only offer Braylon because of his dad? Or was he actually sought after out of high school?
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 2:11 PM #33
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Shaq and Safeties
Shaq and B-Meazy on opposite ends of the field; that would be quite devastating He'll be visiting Notre Dame during ND-Umich game, so another good reason to beat ND. Several videos of Shaq up on YouTube for your viewing pleasure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT9516_i7Us&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwneuTHR1eg&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42Nj0lfhS5s&feature=related
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Posted on: July 8th, 2008 at 4:44 PM #34
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