August 23, 2008
Oakland Raiders post game: A tale of two halves-Preseason week three Arizona Cardinals 24 Oakland Raiders 0
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It was the best of plays, it was the worst of plays. The Oakland Raiders faced off against the Arizona Cardinals for that all important third preseason game. The Raiders played a true Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde game. In the first half, the Raiders nearly dominated in every aspect except the scoreboard. In the second half, the Raiders were laid down like a bunch of porn stars. JaMarcus Russell and the offense were able to move the ball up and down the field on the Cards in the first half, whilst the defense made life miserable for Matt Leinert and the Cards. Once the teams returned from halftime, the Raiders reverted to a team that could be dominated by the 2006 Art Shell version of the Raiders. This one started so promising, but promptly got quite garish.
First Half:
JaMarcus Russell and the Oakland Raiders came out throwing the ball with success. Javon Walker finally broke through with his first catch, and would add two more in the half for a total of 57 yards. Zach Miller was once again Russell's favorite target, hauling in two catches and often finding himself a target when covered. Miller's best play was called an incompletion, despite it appearing that he got his knee down in bounds. Miller leaped for a fade pass from JaMarcus and got one foot down in the end zone and appeared to get his knee down in bounds, but was called out of bounds.
JaMarcus Russell looked good, firing lasers all over the field. When he wasn't under pressure, he was putting the ball into small windows, but too often he found himself having to run away from defenders. Russell made a great play to get out of a sack and turn it into a ten yard scramble only to have it called back because of a penalty on Cornell Green for lining up off the line of scrimmage.
True to Lane Kiffin's word, the Raiders came out throwing the ball to the detriment of the running attack. This play calling hurt the Raiders when they were able to get the ball into the Cards' territory. The Raiders didn't convert on a fourth and goal from the four, after an offsides penalty moved the Raiders in from the nine. Aaron Elling clanked a chip shot off the upright in another red zone appearance.
The Raiders defense in the first half was all over the field. The Raiders weren't bringing the blitz like they did against Tennessee, but they made life absolutely miserable for Matt Leinart. They brought down three interceptions and forced him to fumble. There were a few inexplicable gashes in the run defense, but the Cards could not muster anything against the Raider defense. Their only points were set up by an interception by Russell, which they followed up with their only passable drive which stalled out when the Raider defense held tight inside the ten.
The Second Half:
As motivated and energized as the Raiders looked the first half, they were stale and lethargic in the second half. If this was a defense called by Rob Ryan, it would be the prostitute defense in that it doesn't cover anything and spent the night getting slammed. The Cards scored two touchdowns against a suddenly hapless Raider defense, and drove down for a third that would ultimately be scored on the first play of the second quarter. Neither Michael Waddell, nor Darrick Brown could cover or tackle. The second tier of Cardinal running backs Tim Hightower and Cal product JJ Arrington both looked like future hall of famers gashing the Raiders defense for major chunks of yards. Arrington broke off the right side for a 67 yard touchdown run.
As bad as the defense looked, the offense nearly redefined inept. For some reason, after the Cards had torched the Raiders on the opening drive, Kiffin decided to pound the ball up the middle a couple of times, resulting in three and outs save one series. The first half had been a well crafted, if too pass heavy, game plan, but the second half looked like a repeat of the Tom Walsh clusterf*** minus the quarterback sacks. The Raiders went three and out on nearly every series in the second half, giving the ball back to the Cards to continue to victimize the Raider defense. The Raiders had a total of TWO offensive possessions in the third quarter. The first was a three and out, the second a mini drive including a 17 yard reception by Walker on third down that stalled after Russell was sacked.
Once the Cardinals scored their third touchdown, Lane Kiffin did something that would seem unconscionable to the Raider Nation, he seemed to throw up the white flag. The first series of the fourth quarter were two runs by Michael Bush, followed by a Andrew Walter bomb attempt that was nearly caught by a diving Todd Watkins. The second and final possession of the game once again was a run by Michael Bush, and another Walter bomb attempt that a defender made a great play on to deny Chaz Schilens. Granted, guys fighting for a roster spot are not likely to score 24 points in one quarter, but it would have been a good chance for Kiffin to see how Walter could run the two minute offense. It would have made sense to call a time out to stop the clock before the Cards only punt of the second half (inside the two minute warning) to give the offense a chance to try something.
Overall:
This was a very schizophrenic game for the Oakland Raiders. At times they looked like they could be world beaters, others they looked like they had been beaten like Michael Vick's dogs. The good news is that the it was the first half where the Raiders look good. that means that the starters are coming together and gelling as a team. The bad news is that it looks like there really is a depth problem with the Raiders.
NOTES:
Oren O'Neal and Drew Carter both left the game with injured knees early in the first quarter. Johnnie Lee Higgins held on to the ball and didn't do anything stupid. Marcel Reece had a nice catch where he was upended and landed on his head, but was OK. No word on why Mario Henderson is still on the team. Stanford Routt did what everyone in the Raider Nation has wanted to do for years and bowled over an official. He did it during an interception return.
Discussion
51 Comments on "Oakland Raiders post game: A tale of two halves-Preseason week three Arizona Cardinals 24 Oakland Raiders 0"
#1
Posted by Coach Elkins, August 23, 2008 10:55 PM
Great gameplan Kiffin....
I found it interesting to see a Play Action pass on a 4th and Goal from the 4 yardline after the penalty.
Play Action on 4th down and 1 or 2 I could understand, but not 4.
On a side note, the officiating was a little suspect on the 2 Reviews.
1. Miller was in on the TD catch, with his right knee down, horrible CALL! Great catch by the way!
and conversely---
2. McFadden definately fumbled his catch of the swing pass, especially considering the new rule. The NFL obviously didn't want their SUPPOSED Rookie of the Year to have his play replayed all week long, too bad, maybe if it would have counted he could have learned something.....
Just being objective.....
#2
Posted by Ian Brennan, August 23, 2008 11:16 PM
well both the Chiefs and the Raiders sucked it up we'll see how this plays out but i i don't think either team is going to be anygood this year
#3
Posted by Umer Waris, August 23, 2008 11:30 PM
Coach Elkins,
The Raiders are a run first team and if possible...a run second and third team as well. Snce the run is their primary option, the playaction on fourth down wasnt a bad bait. Besides many players take it for granted that on a fourth or third down, the team is likely going to throw but with the Raiders u never know with what they have on the ground attack.
I wouldnt be so sure about that "The NFL Obvioulsy didnt want their SUPPOSED Rookie of the year to have his play replayed..." stuff u said.They would probably do it all night just prove how his skinny legs cant run or how he has major fumbling problems.
That was an incomplete pass as he never retained position of it and it slipped before he got full control.
Pat,
Liked the references to the prostitute. The way Harris and the rest of the O line was working, the Cards kept on pushing on to Russell.
#4
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#5
Posted by pat. T, August 23, 2008 11:42 PM
"well both the Chiefs and the Raiders sucked it up we’ll see how this plays out but i i don’t think either team is going to be anygood this year"... As if it wasn't clear enough... No one gives a rats ass what you think, or dont think... Go away little boy... Go play your Halo or something...
GO RAIDERS!!!
#6
Posted by John Merlesena, August 24, 2008 12:18 AM
Patrick,
Please show a little class will you. Porn stars give me a break. I have been a huge Raider fan for 15 years. Analysis we have a porous offensive line and no game breaking speed at wideout. For that matter we have no # 2 or 3 receiver period. On defense after the starters we have no depth at all. You wonder why Kiffin is complaining about the backups. That 2nd half was pathetic and I would not be suprised come final cut down that the Raiders add at least 5-7 guys who are currently on other teams. Honestly there were guys out their in the 2nd half who looked like they could not tackle or cover. We cannot afford injuries and last night we lost 2 guys. Al better remove his head from his arse and start taking a hard look at this roster.
#7
Posted by S&B, August 24, 2008 12:58 AM
It should be no surprise that we can't throw the ball. Our O-Line is simply bad pass blockers and our receiving corps can't shine until J.Walker plays like he is supposed too. I only wish that instead of spending all that money on Javon, that we went out and got a more serviceable Left and Right Tackle. Hopefully Javon turns on the lights. If Boldin is available, get him.....We wouldn't find a better receiver in the draft anyway so give them a first round pick.
We better be able to throw when facing 8 man fronts otherise we can't be successful. Seriously, our receivers and o-line have to man up when that happens. As much as our running game is strong, to ask it to single handedly win games with no support is asking too much. Passing game has 2 weeks to get its act together.
Our defense should be okay but I am still a little unsure of the run defense. Denver will be a good test.
#8
Posted by xobn1050, August 24, 2008 1:34 AM
Don't live on the California area so I haven't seen the game yet. By seeing the score I am dissapointed with the Raiders expecting them to do better. I read blogs by two writers I always respected by being fair and not being "homers" in Jerry McDonald and Jason Jones and at least there are positives that can be taken from this game. I don't like it either that my team gets shutout but there are other things that at least help me to digest this one.
1. There was a sight of improvement on Javon Walker.
2. Johnnie Lee Higgins was more careful with the football and played without mistakes(fumbles)
3. By the looks of the stats it was a pass,pass,pass offensive game plan and we all know that resembles the Art Shell-Tom Walsh era. That's proven not to be Kiffin-Knapp-Cable game plan which would run quite more frequently.
4. At the first two quarters the defense frustrated the Arizona offense, specifically Leinart into mistakes. Aren't you glad Raider fans we didn't get Leinart on the 2006 draft like all the media said we should and even blasted us for not picking him. I would have any day of the week JaMarcus even though he is still learning. In any case Jay Cutler has shown more than Leinart and was picked later.
5. We got our rears handed to us on the second half but by what I have read a lot of the starters were not playing by then. Most of these players in the second half will be gone by the last cut to 53.
6. At least Kiffin proved a point about the offense needing more work on the passing game and being predominantly a running team. Sadly it also proved a point on the depth issue on the team.
Finally I am dissapointed with the season ending injuries on Carter and O'Neal. Our WR group was not deep and now will have to rely on a free agent that has talent but hadn't shown it,a veteran with two achilles tears in his resume, a strugling with confidence 2nd year player that returns kicks, free agent pickup and a seventh round rookie. They all will make the team out of necesity. And if O'Neal is out it leaves a hole on the blocking schemes for the running game as he was the teams power fullback. Either the team will look at free agent fullbacks or just keep Reece on the 53 man roster.
#9
Posted by rodmoney, August 24, 2008 3:13 AM
Regardless of what game it is, play well and execute. if we lose and play well it's ok. When you lose and stink in the process, it's frustrating for we've seen that for the last 5 yrs.
#10
Posted by Raider Blues, August 24, 2008 6:47 AM
Well didn't see it but sounds like it erased the good feeling I had after the game last week. That FB situation either needs to get rectified or we need to split DMac out in some 2-back sets.
No passing game and no FB???
#11
Posted by The Fifth Horseman, August 24, 2008 7:53 AM
hahahahaha good game last night Raiders. Enjoy your sixth straight season of double digit losses. mwahahahahahaha
#12
Posted by Rada4life, August 24, 2008 8:47 AM
^ 5Th jackass!Preseason is NOT on the record.I have seen good teams lose ALL of there preseason games only to go into the Regular season and kick everyone's butt.It proves that there is some more work to do in areas and some players that need cut.8 -8 does look more realistic than 10- 6,but who knows.I'm sure there will be some more key signings after this game.Kamae worries me and also the fact that Drew went down along with O'Neal is going to be some hard gaps to fill.Those two are players ,i was looking forward to following this year.Time to "Step it up Raiders".
#13
Posted by pat. T, August 24, 2008 10:06 AM
Wait O'Neal & Carter are out for the season? Noooo! Carter was already building chemistry with Russell...
GO RAIDERS!!!
#14
Posted by KUSHMAN, August 24, 2008 10:15 AM
ignore 5th.. he doesn't know anything about football other than the fact he got his ass kicked at a raider game for mouthing off to somone.. LMAO.. hey fag its preseason.. yer cowgirls don't even look amazing.. yes romo does look good as always... BUT NICE INT IN THE INZONE HAHA!
really tho people.. its preseason and kiffin wanted to see how the passing game went.. obviously not so great.. we needed 10 solid plays in the passing game to look decent.. we got 7 plays on the first couple of of drives... no results in a touchdown. GOOD CATCH MILLER YOU GOT HOSED.. YOUR KNEE WAS IN DUDE. the whole thing about passing the whole time is.. your opponent expects it, especially because thats what kiffin announced he was going to do all night.. so of course no one was open. they werent running the ball enough to keep the defense honest and keep them from dropping back into coverage.. i have to give it to the cardinal's D tho... wow they looked like they improved from years past.. dockett is a madman... 12+ sack season.. especially playing the niners twice.. lol feel sorry for O'sullivan.
rada4life: griffith > o'neal ... he isn't as injury prone as o'neal my man.. and he doesn't fumble the ball on the goal line...i think griffith is just as good as a chip blocker.. even tho o'neal is more of a buldozer type back.. but we all kind of expected him to go down sometime early.. he's ALWAYS on PUP list for that knee. as for drew... yea im pissed off about that.. it was the way he landed on that knee when he flipped over after making that AWESOME grab.. totally twisted it on the landing.. tough break.. GO FOR BOLDIN DAMNIT AL!! PLEAD WITH THE CARDS FOR A DEAL!! i don't think ARZ want a RB right now(namley bush).. that rookie they have (don't know his name) is going to be a badass plus they have james.. they're going to want nothing less than a first round pick.. and i think they should get it. we need another receiver.. we can't count on walker, curry and a bunch of rookies or unproven WRs... MAKE THE DEAL
all in all.. it's okay raiders.. at least we know this 1st team defense can DOMINATE a passing/running game.. GO HUFF 2 INT I LOVE YOU MAN... REDEEM YOURSELF!! the thing about it is... that offense needs score in the f*ckin redzone.. the defense was giving them every opportunity.. i mean, 3 times they were in the redzone!!!.. once got hosed and the 2nd time was just a joke, coach is right, nice pass play on 4th down wow.. and the last time a missed FG.. how do you go from nailing a 56 yarder to missing a what was it 30 yarder?! wow. GJ BACKUP.
but again.. ITS PRESEASON.. they still have a lot to workout.. and i think they will get it done before primetime football. GO RAIDERS
#15
Posted by Raider Raul, August 24, 2008 11:14 AM
Patrick,
Porn stars and prostitutes??
Uh, I think you can make better and more proffessional analogies than that, Patrick. Anyways, the good news is that Kiffin once again proved he was right...our O-line stinks in pass protection and commits way too many penalties. We're gonna pound the rock bigtime this year. Maybe even 70percent of our plays will be running the ball.
Here's hoping for quick recoveries from Oneal & Carter!!!
#16
Posted by pat. T, August 24, 2008 11:32 AM
Can someone tell me if Carter & O'Neal are really out for the year???
#17
Posted by Umer Waris, August 24, 2008 1:08 PM
KUSHMAN,
Before we make any claims for a WR, we have to got to get Russell in sync and the only way to do that is to have better pass protection. Get some O-linemen to first soldify the pocket and then finally go out looking for assets for that QB to throw that ball ACCURATELY!
Ugly O-line = Unaccurate Rusell = Bad redzone offense.
The only reason Docket and the rest of that line looked any good was because of that pathetic protection that was being played especially by Harris. Against the Titans, our tacles looked pretty stable and that was going against two pro bowl DEs, I dont understand the breakdown against the Cards?
Oh and Huff only had one intercption, dude but it was a nice one. After leinart seemed poised those last few games, Huff and the secondary completely annihilated the Trojan.
#18
Posted by The Fifth Horseman, August 24, 2008 2:39 PM
I love the "its only preseason" comments. What are you clowns going to say when Oakland drops one to Denver in week one? Is it gonna be "Its only week one fellas, we have to give this time"? lol this is going to be another great season of watching the Raiders go down in flames. The only three sure things in life are death, taxes, and the Raiders will suck again. mwahahahahahahahahaha
#19
Posted by KUSHMAN, August 24, 2008 2:44 PM
yea i just resaw the game.. i thought that second one came from huff too... i really think he's going to work wonders with that backfield.. and dude..russell in sync with a receiver that can get just a little open... that one to curry in the inzone was tipped off his hands.. IT WAS RIGHT THERE TO CATCH and curry dropped it.. the one to miller could have been a tid bit lower, but it was catchable.. his placement with the ball is prime... so aside from the rookie int he threw.. he took care of the ball. and also, boldin can get open quicker than any of guys on the roster right now.. his cutbacks and ability/speed to get around coverage is "game breaking ability".. so that'll in turn frees up miller and curry and walker on a regular basis when you send 2 to cover boldin... i think moreso than the O-line(yes why'd they lose their pass coverage against the cards and not against the titans WTF?!), our receivers couldn't get open even when russell had a few seconds... i was looking at those 3 more than the o-line .. and they just didnt have much speed.. which needs to be corrected if we want to get to atleast 8-8 this season... period.
i really believe the raiders lost their mojo once 2 starters went down.. like i said im glad we have griffith.. but carter would have been open a lot tonight if he hadn't gotten injured.. that one catch was BEAUTIFUL.. if we're not going to make a run at any more receivers like tony glenn at least (haha i know), then schilens or watkins really need to step up.. i've seen catching ability from them.. hopefully they can make that on regular basis
#20
Posted by KUSHMAN, August 24, 2008 3:18 PM
who do you think you're bothering 5th.. we know you're full of shit.. but hey let me know when the cowgirls win a playoff game buddy. your a fag as always.
#21
Posted by pat. T, August 24, 2008 3:50 PM
Lets make something straight the Raiders aren't going to make a move for Anquan Boldin. Even if they wanted to, we don't have enough cap room. He's obviously going to ask for number one receiver type money. And Javon's already getting that money & if we release him he'll still count against the cap. And no one will trade for him with the type of contract he has. So can we please be realistic. Plus Javon didn't look that bad yesterday against a decent secondary. He's just got to keep his ead in the game. And yesterday Kiffin & company asked to much from an O-line which is just coming together against a pretty good defense. I think what we've learned about Russell this preseason is that he can make every throw in or out of the pocket. But he needs protection like every normal QB. We should be thankful that he's extremly mobile and can escape the rush and throw well on the run. But we can't expect that from him everytime. Last but probably most important we have to score when our defense hands it to us with good field position. And when were in the redzone, come on you have to come out with at leas 3 points to show for it. Thats simple basics that you learn in college. But i also think our play calling is a little predictable. Run up the middle with Dmac on first down, run up the middle with Dmac on second down, and then we throw it. No its obvious that we'll throw on a third and long so they'll send everyone back and they have less field to defend because its in the redzone. But if your QB gets the ball to your hands you have to catch it & get the touchdown. Cough, cough Curry. That was a great throw from Russell between like 5 defenders & Curry just dropped it on fourth down and goal i think. I honestly think Kiffin & company are saving the good stuff for week 1. I would love to see Walker run a fade route and Russell throw it out there and let Javon go get it, or line up Miller a receiver and throw it to him on a fade route. Point is i honestly think Kiffin is saving the good stuff for the regular season.
What really disappointed me was our defense. First & second. That J.J Arrington 60 something yard run was extremly embarrasing. I think that will be our problem. We can stop the run through the middle as well as when backs bounce it outside(most of the time). But how do we defend the toss or sweep our d. ends have to stay at home as well as our outside LB's. And our safeties HAVE to make the tackle when they get their hands on a back. I personally think Tommy Kelly is living up to his contract, he's a beast. And Warren is playing pretty good himself. Now the million dollar question is can Terdell Sands, William Joseph or somebody step up & relive them of their duties for a couple of plays at least.
GO RAIDERS!!!
#22
Posted by pat. T, August 24, 2008 3:54 PM
Hey 5th horse something. Fuck off dude, your just an idiot all i see is you talking crap, but i never see you write anything to back it up. Now i don't know what team you like and to be honest i dont give a shit. But what is this the reicarnation of Mike'whiner. Or are you his bitch? You tell me... Your just one of those haters i guess you could say... But anyways dude theres one more sure thing in life dudes that talk shit online like you about things that aren't their bussiness are called BITCHES... yeah you... Anyways
GO RAIDERS!!!
#23
Posted by Junior, August 24, 2008 4:57 PM
I think Jarrod Cooper is still talking to Stu, cause he couldn't tackle to save his life last night. Two big run plays including Arrington's long run he was seen standing and basically watching the back go right by him. I guess that's why he's not the starter.
Kiffin got some of his questions answered last night and that is what the preseason is for anyway. Now it's time to make some adjustments and see what happens when people start getting dumped.
Sucks to watch a loss, but all hope is not gone.
#24
Posted by LDizzle, August 24, 2008 6:33 PM
Yes Pat T: Carter and O'Neal are both out for the season. It was obvious by the lack of run blocking in this game just how much we missed him at FB. We were thin at receiver as it was, now we will have to either sign Koren Robinson or trade for another receiver. Boldin would sure be nice but he would be too expensive it would seem. Perhaps someone will be available in the first round of cuts. Not likely much worth having though. This sucks.
#25
Posted by SpokaneOakfan, August 24, 2008 6:58 PM
I keep forgetting, who won last time the Raiders and Doncs played?
#26
Posted by LDizzle, August 24, 2008 7:02 PM
Patrick I have to say that all of the "whore" and "porn star" references were pretty cheesy. And the "Vick's Dogs" reference is old and overdone. You also missed a good chance for a joke because after the Vick's dogs comment you said "the bad news is" without even realizing that was the name of his kennels "bad news kennels". Just a pity to have missed the opportunity for a good joke.
Hey KUSH? If you want to talk football you should probably know that it is an "ENDZONE" not an "INZONE". Go ahead and get pissed that I corrected you but you should thank me for helping you not to look stupid in the future. Also saying Griffith>O'Neal is pointless. Every team needs more than one FB. Griffith would be useless doing it by himself and O'Neal was clearly the go-to guy in run blocking so it would seem the coaches don't agree with your opinion.
#27
Posted by Bill, August 24, 2008 7:28 PM
LDizzle what teams carry two FBs? There are some teams in the NFL without one. Wasted roster space if you ask me.
#28
Posted by Raider Scott, August 24, 2008 8:01 PM
Pat, I thought your joke was funny only because it was spot on. After watching that game I think it summed up our performance. I was disappointed with the loss but deflated watching our starters go down. We are too thin to take hits like that; O'Neal's absence really hurts our rushing attack. I didn't expect us to take these types of hits so early. I know we relied heavily on O’Neal and we were hoping to really punish people with our rushing attack. I am hopeful that Griffith can handle the load. It sounds like there are some veteran receivers out there, but I sure don’t want to get stuck with a malcontent, but we are between a rock and a hard place since we are short on receivers with any experience.
#29
Posted by pat. T, August 24, 2008 10:15 PM
No! I just saw on NFL Network that Kiffin said Drew Carter & Oren O'Neal are out for the rest of the season... But it gets worse he also said O'Neal's injury is possibly also carrer threatning...
GO RAIDERS!!!
#30
Posted by Voice of Reason, August 25, 2008 12:54 AM
# KUSHMAN says:
August 24th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
yea i just resaw the game.. i thought that second one came from huff too…
V-of-R: Don't think. It exposes your weaknesses.
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i really think he’s going to work wonders with that backfield..
VoR: Again, why is it "thinking" and "making sense" never cross paths with you? Huff was a bust prior to this year, and now? After an easy pick thrown by a horrible qb you now hang on his sac? Huff has no tackles, is constantly out of position, and is easily fooled..like you.
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and dude..russell in sync with a receiver that can get just a little open… .. his placement with the ball is prime… so aside from the rookie int he threw..
V-of-R: WTF???? You stupidly run the "Oh goody. A receiver made a catch..he made TWO..THEY'RE IN SYNC." but when he looks like crap, badly misses the receiver, makes bad choices, and throws picks, you run the "he's a rookie" take? Wrong. Russell got you all excited with 4 dink throws to start the game, then pretty much stunk it up the rest of his outing.
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i think moreso than the O-line(yes why’d they lose their pass coverage against the cards and not against the titans WTF?!),
V-of-R: Why??? BECAUSE HARRIS SUCKS, YOU MORON. Yeah, dumbass..YOU ran that stupid 'Cable is awesome. I love him. He's going to turn Harris into a top tackle. You even STUPIDLY set yourself up by posting "Well Mike? Thought Cable couldn't make him better"?? HE DIDN'T. Harris was responsible for the first sack against Tenn. Was responsible for numerous slams, for letting a LB fly by, resulting in a holding call against a back..and against theCards??? HARRIS WAS BITCHSLAPPED RELENTLESSLY.
Well? LMAO..what happened to the "we're in a ZBS now?" Harris looked like he was literally standing still as the DE fly by him. Other times he got shaken so bad he fell down. Over and over Russell took hits after the ball was thrown because Harris's guy kept coming. Other times Russell had to rush the throw because pressure was coming from his blind side.
=====================================our receivers couldn’t get open even when russell had a few seconds… i was looking at those 3 more than the o-line ..
V-of-R: LMAO..total BS. Come on..man up and admit your sorryass looked at Harris getting torched, and you don't have the balls to admit he sucks, and you were a fool all along for running your mouth on what a GREAT PICKUP HARRIS WAS.
Oh...go read up ANYWHERE..ANY RAIDER BOARD..any sports site..your O line is exactly what I stated it was...with Gallery and Harris on the left side, Russell is dead meat, and a sitting duck.
Cable couldn't make Gallery a decent tackle, much less a great one. Why would you stupidly state he'll now make Harris into a great LT? Guys a bust, and you're a fool.
i really believe the raiders lost their mojo once 2 starters went down..
V-of-R: Mojo??? lol...when the hell did the Raiders have any mojo?? How can you lose something you never had??
Can't you just say the Raiders looked like crappola, and played like crappola, instead of making those silly "we lost our mojo" whimpers???
#31
Posted by KUSHMAN, August 25, 2008 7:32 AM
no dizzle im not mad.. i just feel sorry for you that your OCD is so bad you have to nitpick everything i say... i know wtf its called dude.. i just ran my words together on accident, its called a TYPE-O kid.. "in the endzone" i meant to write.. yea try to focus on the good things i say about OUR TEAM, we are on the same side right?.. and about griffith.. yes i know o'neal was the better one.. but like i said, he was injury prone going in.. he's been battling injuries his whole career.. and all it took was one hit to possibly end it for good ... so griffith is more dependable.. thats why i say griffith > o'neal...
#32
Posted by Voice of Reason, August 25, 2008 1:01 PM
# pat. T says:
August 24th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
But what is this the reicarnation of Mike’whiner. Or are you his bitch? You tell me… Your just one of those haters i guess you could say… But anyways dude theres one more sure thing in life dudes that talk shit online like you about things that aren’t their bussiness are called BITCHES… yeah you… Anyways
GO RAIDERS!!!
V-of-R: How cute. You can't stop thinking about me.
I'm curious about something, Patricia.
Message boards are online.
People post messages on message boards.
You DON'T go to Safeway and post messages on the "message board" you post it on ONLINE message boards.
You're kind of confused on how this "message board" thang works, aren't you??
OH..THAT'S RIGHT...when you get flustered and clusterf**ked, you run that "I get confused easily" take.
Sorry. My bad. I forgot.
#33
Posted by Voice of Reason, August 25, 2008 1:09 PM
McFumble???
Well??????
He's broken ZERO TACKLES.
Scored ZERO TD'S.
Scared NO ONE.
And does in the NFL what he did in college..somehow fumbles away balls when no one is even near him.
I told you all...why run your mouths on how great a guy is going to be before he even plays?? He very well might turn out to be good..but great? NEVER.
At this point all McFumble has is speed.
Granted, it's nice to have.
But considering the above???
You STILL think Fargas and Bush couldn't do the job, and that getting a great run stopper wouldn't have been wiser?
Let me say it AGAIN..you didn't NEED ANOTHER RB.
You blew it on draft day, and something tells me many of you wish you had used that pick on either a D lineman, or A LEFT TACKLE.
#34
Posted by LDizzle, August 25, 2008 6:55 PM
KUSH a typo happens once not EVERY time you mention the word. Sorry not buying it. I wouldn't mention it if you only did it once. You saying you feel sorry for me in just your way of trying to strike back at me for pointing out your lack of correct football terminology. I expected your "typo" bullshit though. That is what everyone says. Just calm down and get over it. Also note how innefective our running attack was compared to last game? Is it a coincidence that O'Neal was not there to block? Hard to say.
V-of-R: You REALLY believe you are the end all of football knowledge. Wow! it is only the stupidest man who thinks he knows everything. You are more like the voice of hatred and cynicism with some rage issues sprinkled in.
You should also keep your insane rants to just one who-gives-a-shit long comment. I lost interest before the first comment was over.
Speaking of calming down, you should relax and get laid. Although you probably couldn't get laid if you crawled up a chicken's ass.
#35
Posted by Ian, August 25, 2008 9:02 PM
Pat T when is the last time you made an intelligent opinion, and if you did can you show me that you didn't bash someone for their opinions after wards....your such a fucking loser man....that's all i can say, when someone says something you tell them to "shut the Fuck up" when someone is against your opinion their just some idiot who doesn't know what they are talking about but i really think it's you who knows nothing about football and to make you feel better you suck on your thumb like a two year old and call me a meanie head and throw internet tantrums, Oakland Sucks... their a terrible football team, but so does Kc, so my comment wasn't dumb your just retarded, and the fact that I knew Carter was out before you is so fucking sad, plus Carter is not that good and the fact that you got upset like he was Jerry Rice is even more sad, grow the fuck up and like Dick Vermeil once said " It's time to take off the diapers."
Go Chiefs!!!!
#36
Posted by Voice of Reason, August 25, 2008 10:33 PM
LDizzle says:
August 25th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
KUSH a typo happens once not EVERY time you mention the word. Sorry not buying it. I wouldn’t mention it if you only did it once. You saying you feel sorry for me in just your way of trying to strike back at me for pointing out your lack of correct football terminology.
V-of-R: Is there ANYTHING more pathetic than someone playing the typo/grammar take? Seriously?? Makes you look like you have shit for brains.
See...it now means you're an easy target. (When WEREN'T you an easy target, Ditzle??)
YOU commented: ~~~You saying you feel sorry for me in just your way ~~~
IN just your way? Oh..you meant "IS" just your way.
See how sorryass that is?
Except for the fact YOU ran the typo/grammar/spelling take. Now means everyone gets to shit on you, while laughing at you setting yourself up.
Way to go, Ditzle..lol...as only YOU can.
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I expected your “typo” bullshit though. That is what everyone says. Just calm down and get over it. Also note how innefective our running attack was compared to last game? Is it a coincidence that O’Neal was not there to block? Hard to say.
V-of-Reason: Innefective??? WTF?? Is that English?? OH...you meant ineffective??
Only a DUMBASS WHO SPELLS LIKE SHIT POINTS OUT SOMEONE ELSE'S SPELLING.
Personally could care less...until someone who spells like shit runs the above :)
then I get to laugh :)
Guess who's being laughed at, Ditzle??
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V-of-R: You REALLY believe you are the end all of football knowledge. Wow! it is only the stupidest man who thinks he knows everything. You are more like the voice of hatred and cynicism with some rage issues sprinkled in.
V-of-Reason: Actually all I do know, without a shred of doubt is that I torched your sorry inept ass, and sent you into the "I stopped reading" mode of posting which means 'I know I'll get shredded...AGAIN..so I'll wisely bow out."
You're not as stupid as you look.
But then again, you just might be.
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You should also keep your insane rants to just one who-gives-a-shit long comment. I lost interest before the first comment was over.
V-of-Reason: And you should learn to spell so you won't set yourself up to come across as such a clown.
Then, and only then you can get back to making excuses why your sorryass hasn't word one in defense of your sorry team.
Oh..that's right..you tried that before..didn't you?
Yeah..if I fared as you did, I would retreat as well.
Now..moron...spell Kat.
#37
Posted by pat. T, August 26, 2008 10:04 AM
Hahahahahahaha! First Ian i dont call people idiots when their against my opinion, just you... I just like to mess with you because you get all frustrated... lol.... Yeah well while im sucking on my thumb i bet your sucking on something else? huh? Sorry you set yourself up on that one... And how is it sad that you knew Carter wasout before me? I knew he got injured because i watched the game, i just didnt know he was out for the season... And he's not that good right? Well he's better than every receiver on your squad(other than D. Bowe)... And the fact is he was building chemistry with Russell... Anyways point is shut the f**k up...
Voice of Reason... Yeah i cant stop thinking about you... Your right, you dont forget bitches that easily do you? Offcourse not... Oh and your talking about getting laid? hahahahahahaha! Sorry i just dont understand how you talk about getting laid? Do you even have time to get laid... I mean you leave so many comments on here so i just dont see where you get the time... Plus you only comment here when your bottle of lotion runs out... So i dont think you should talk about getting laid....
GO RAIDERS!!!
#38
Posted by Voice of Reason, August 26, 2008 1:46 PM
Pat?? lol...you ignorant fool...that's Ditzle who's bringing up getting laid.
You pay attention to printed words about as well as you pay attention to that sorryass team.
In other words, you don't have a clue.
#39
Posted by pat. T, August 26, 2008 3:05 PM
Hahaha! That was my bad... But i still belive what i said about you getting laid... You cant... Stick to the right hand...
GO RAIDERS!!!
#40
Posted by Ian, August 26, 2008 5:00 PM
I called it...I said that you were gonna tell me to shut the fuck up........and you did, and the only thing i was sucking on was your mommas titties last night when we made sweet love under the full moon, but anyways back to Carter, yeah he is so good! thats why he did so much with his other team....what was it the Panthers see i don't even know cause he is so worthless.....Let me say that D-bowe will rape this year and either Will Franklin or Devard Darling will step it up and be way better because wait in case you missed it, your Carter's chemistry is worthless now because a. HE SUCKED AND b. HES NOT GOING TO PLAY THIS YEAR.....so have fun with Javon" I need a " walker who was overpaid and Ronald Curry who is a good number two but not great, so when the Chiefs rape you guys like what happened to your mom 9 months before you were born, than don't be surprised....so how is your Bakers man....Patty Cake oh Patty Cake.......Fag....Peace out homo.....
overpaid
#41
Posted by Ian, August 26, 2008 5:01 PM
I meant homie but Homo works just as well....bitch....fag
#42
Posted by pat. T, August 26, 2008 5:17 PM
Hahaha! Ian where to start... You were sucking on what whos tits? Chill out dude... You were playing video games and than you got online started looking at porn... If that counts as sex than hey you probably get laid 3-4 times a day... And "homie"? Come on dude im not your age so dont talk to me like that... Dude i dont like you, but i do get a couple of laughs at the shit you say... Wait not even Chiefs fans like you... That explains alot... Im a Raiders fan but i wont argue with you because you think Walker is overpaid... Why? Because its true... And watch what you say boy... Cause its real easy to talk shit online to someone you dont know... But dont get your words mixed up little boy... I would say I'll fuck your girl or something like that... but doubt you have one so yeah little boy get back to your Halo... You come in here looking for me & shit... Damn i made you my bitch online... Your my Cybernet Bitch... lol... Just fucking with you dude dont cry... Peace out "homie"...
GO RAIDERS!!!
#43
Posted by Ian, August 26, 2008 7:03 PM
So your older than me? and your picking fights? wow thats awesome...I don't care how old you are...what you look like....your a bitch....and i wouldn't be scared of your Patty cake ass if i saw you on the street...come to kc and talk that shit man....you'll get lit up so fast you don't even know....bro
#44
Posted by pat. T, August 26, 2008 7:56 PM
Hahaha! Come on boy... Come to the streets in KC? hahaha! Hilarious... Dude its KC... hahaha! Worst thing that happens there is a car jacking... What about shit here in Cali? Come on dude dont pick a fight you know cant win...
GO RAIDERS!!!
#46
Posted by Ian, August 26, 2008 8:13 PM
and how am i your bitch if you keep responding to what i say...?
#48
Posted by pat. T, August 27, 2008 8:55 AM
Dude grow the fuck up... serious did you see the comment you left pretending to be me... You sure display your age... That was extremly childish... But what can i expect from my BITCH... You only talk shit because i live in another state... Come on little boy... And you act like KC is all big & bad... hahaha! Your just a pussy...
GO RAIDERS!!!
#49
Posted by Your Niner Reality Check, August 27, 2008 9:40 PM
pat. T says:
August 27th, 2008 at 8:55 am
Dude grow the fuck up… serious did you see the comment you left pretending to be me… You sure display your age… That was extremly childish… But what can i expect from my BITCH… You only talk shit because i live in another state… Come on little boy… And you act like KC is all big & bad… hahaha! Your just a pussy…
Pot??? Meet kettle!!
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