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2009 player salaries and options left

Posted by Maddog on 10/09/08 at 02:55 AM • 86 Comments

The following table shows the Cubs players who are under contract for 2009. Henry Blanco just has an option that includes a $300,000 buyout. Next to each players name is the number of options he has remaining. This chart can be found just below the site logo at all times.

Chicago Cubs 2009 Salary Chart









Player (options left)
Position 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015
Jose Ascanio (1)
Pitcher
           
Neal Cotts (0)
Pitcher Arb.  




Chad Gaudin (0)
Pitcher Arb.            
Angel Guzman (1)
Pitcher      



Rich Harden (0)
Pitcher
7.000






Kevin Hart (2)
Pitcher        


Rich Hill (0)
Pitcher    




Ted Lilly (0)
Pitcher 12.000 12.000




Carlos Marmol (1)
Pitcher  





Jason Marquis (0) Pitcher 9.875





Sean Marshall (1)
Pitcher              
Billy Petrick (2)
Pitcher              
Carmen Pignatiello (2)
Pitcher      



Jeff Samardzija (2)
Pitcher 1.300 2.500 2.8.00 3.000
3.500


Randy Wells (3)
Pitcher              
Michael Wuertz (0)
Pitcher Arb.  




Carlos Zambrano (0)
Pitcher 17.750 17.875 17.875 18.000 19.250



















Henry Blanco (0) C 3.000        

Ronny Cedeno (0)
SS Arb.






Mark DeRosa (0)
2B 5.500





Mike Fontenot (1)
2B  





Jake Fox (1)
OF/C              
Fukudome (4)
OF 12.000 12.000 12.000        
Sam Fuld (2)
CF              
Koyie Hill (0)
C              
Micah Hoffpauir (2)
1B/OF              
Reed Johnson (0)
OF Arb.            
Derrek Lee (0)
1B 13.000 13.000      

Casey McGehee (3)
IF              
Felix Pie (0)
OF  





Aramis Ramirez (0)
3B 15.650 15.750 14.600 16.000


Brad Snyder (0)
OF







Alfonso Soriano (0)
OF 16.000 18.000 18.000 18.000 18.000 18.000
Geovany Soto (0) C  





Ryan Theriot (2)
SS  





 

NOTES:

•Salaries information came from mlb4u.com and Cot's Baseball Contracts and AZ Phil
•Dollars are in Millions
•Numbers in blue: player option
•Numbers in red: club option
•Guzman, Marmol, Marshall, and Theriot could qualify as Super-Two players, meaning they'd be arbitration eligible
•The following players have some form of No-Trade protection: Ted Lilly, Jeff Samardzija, Carlos Zambrano, Derrek Lee, Aramis Ramierz, Kosuke Fukudome, and Alfonso Soriano
•Henry Blanco's $3 million option also includes a $300,000 buyout if the Cubs decide not to exercise their option.
Rich Harden can demand a trade since he was traded in the middle of a long-term contract.


The Cubs currently have just over $113 million in payroll for 2009. Crane Kenney recently stated the payroll would increase next year from the $130 million it was this year. A couple of the beat reporters have suggested the Cubs payroll would be around $150 million in 2009. That gives the Cubs a lot of money to play around with. I don't completely understand the options process, but AZ Phil shows Fukudome has 4 options left (which is absolutely correct), but I wonder if he can refuse an option. I'm guessing he can't, which means there is a good chance Fukudome will be sent to Iowa or Daytona or Mesa at some point in 2009.


Comments

1. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 05:21 AM

is 20M really a lot?  That’s what, Mark Texeira for a year or CC?  Not that neither wouldn’t help but depending on the plans the Cubs may have to pare some payroll.

2. oog of ulam, Assistant Key Grip — Oct 09, 2008 @ 05:35 AM

rod wrote:
Whatever Couch. You talk the talk. Big deal. As most Cub fans have finally realized, regular seasons mean nothing. Just like all other sports, baseball is now a sport where it’s about what you can do in the playoffs. Two years straight, the Cubs, and their so-called great manager have done nothing. I repeat Couch, NOTHING. The same core group of players will be back next season. They will be managed by the so-called great manager again. So, even if they feast on the regular season chumps, and make the playoffs again, you know, i know, everyone knows, and most importantly the Cub players know, they’ll do NOTHING. You talk about what they can do this off season. The fact is, Lou Pinella is a suckup manager in regards to veterans. Soriano wants to bat leadoff, and will continue to bat leadoff. You know it, i know it, every Cub fan knows it. So, if Cub fans are finally tired of giving everything they got for 162 games, only to watch unbearable baseball played by guys whose knees must be shaking, then so be it. Fortunately, Chicago is in America, and as Americans, we can like who we want, whether you think we should or not.
10/9/2008 9:25 AM CDT on suntimes.com

I am sorry. I just won’t be able to stop posting these until they stop being written.

3. oog of ulam, Assistant Key Grip — Oct 09, 2008 @ 05:37 AM

Maddog, you should change the name of your blog to the entirety of the comment I posted. I can’t stop laughing at it. (dying laughing)

4. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 05:52 AM

is 20M really a lot?  That’s what, Mark Texeira for a year or CC?  Not that neither wouldn’t help but depending on the plans the Cubs may have to pare some payroll.

I think it is.  It’s about $36 or $37 million to spend on free agents.  I assume a couple of those will be Wood and Dempster.  That essentially brings the same team back from 2008 with about $15-20 million to spend depending on whether or not you backload the deals for Wood and Dempster.  $15-20 million is about 4 wins.  So if we take the 2008 Cubs as a 92-win team we’ve improved them by a decent amount with 4 wins. 

While the annual average for a guy like Teixeira or CC would be about $20 million, Hendry will backload almost any deal so even a deal like that would probably only add $8-10 million in payroll in 2009. 

The more I think about it, the more I think letting Wood walk is the best move.  I’ll hate to see him on another team, but Marmol might be arbitration eligible this year, and even if he isn’t, his salary is going to increase significantly by the time Wood’s new contract would expire.  Do you really want to pay 2 guys closer money?  I wouldn’t.  Marmol is more than capable of taking over the closer role.  Between Gaudin, Wuertz, Guzman, Cotts, Veal and Marshall, the bullpen should be just fine.

5. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 05:54 AM

$15-20 million is about 4 wins.

Tampa Bay disagrees. (dying laughing)

6. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 05:54 AM

So, if Cub fans are finally tired of giving everything they got for 162 games, only to watch unbearable baseball played by guys whose knees must be shaking, then so be it.

What is this guy talking about?  Only a retarded Cubs fan would be tired of watching playoff baseball.  He acts like the Cubs are there every single year and have done nothing.  Jesus Christ.  Does he remember what organization this is?

7. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 05:56 AM

Maddog, you should change the name of your blog to the entirety of the comment I posted. I can’t stop laughing at it. (dying laughing)

If you make a logo out of it, I’ll put it up.

8. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 05:57 AM

Wood and Dempster are Type A’s. Howry is a Type B. And I don’t mean that Wood and Dempster are high-strung while Howry is laid back.

9. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 05:58 AM

I think I’d take the 2 picks for Wood and there’s no chance on earth I’d be offering Howry arbitration and I certainly hope Hendry won’t be either, which would mean we’ll get nothing for Howry, which is more than he gave us in his 3 years.

10. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 05:59 AM

When talking about pitching depth, I forgot about Gaudin. I also forgot that Rich Hill might remember how to pitch.

11. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:00 AM

I think the Cubs will sign Wood, but I’m just not sure it’s the right thing to do.  In a couple years the Cubs will have one very expensive bullpen.  On the other hand, you could probably get a ransom for Marmol if you were to trade him.  That’s not such a bad idea either.

12. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:02 AM

Hill is out of options so he’ll either make the club or be traded.  I’m guessing he’ll be traded.  When you consider the season he had in 2007 and how quickly Lou pulled the plug in 2008, I just don’t see Lou giving him another chance.

13. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:03 AM

On the other hand, you could probably get a ransom for Marmol if you were to trade him. 

I was just about to post that. Marmol’s value might never be higher and he’s probably our most valuable trading chip. We could probably put together a package around Marmol to NYM for Beltran.

14. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:04 AM

he’ll either make the club or be traded.

I’d like to think he still has some value.

15. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:05 AM

Good idea, Ryno.  The Mets need a solid reliever and a closer.  Marmol could definitely be a big piece in getting Beltran if the rumors over the past year are true that the Mets would like to free up money by trading him. 

It would take more than Marmol.  Marmol, Hill (not Koyie), and what?

16. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:06 AM

I’d like to think he still has some value.

He definitely does.  A lefty who can strike people out, doesn’t have a ton of mileage on his arm.  I’m sure some teams see him as a reliever at this point, but some others would still see him as a mid-rotation starter with the upside of a number 2 or even a poor man’s number 1.

17. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:07 AM

Is Sherrill a free agent?  Rumors again the Cubs have interest in Brian Roberts.  Maybe a Roberts, Sherrill and something else for Marmol, Pie and Hill?  I think those 3 Cubs players are worth more than they’d be getting for sure, but I don’t think the Cubs do.

18. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:07 AM

Jim Callis’ mock draft has WAS taking college righties Stephen Strasburg and Kyle Gibson. If that happens, look for WAS to have a dynamite rotation by 2011.

19. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:08 AM

It would take more than Marmol.  Marmol, Hill (not Koyie), and what?

Probably a position player or two.  Colvin would be an idea, but I’m not sure he has a lot of value in the market right now, or at least not as much value as the Cubs think he has.

20. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:10 AM

Welington Castillo will have a ton of value and a lot of interest in teams that Hendry tries to deal with this offseason.  With Soto, you can afford to deal him. 

The Cubs have some interesting trade pieces in Marmol, Hill, Pie, Castillo and even throw in Lee with that group.

21. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:10 AM

Marmol, Hill (not Koyie), and what?

Marmol, Hill and Pie/Colvin (NYM’s choice) would probably be a good start. NYM’s tricky because they need to go for it now and we don’t have much in the way of ML-ready talent to ship off or fill in for 25-man trade bait.

I’m sure NYM would want Marmol, at least one ML-ready starting pitcher and a CF replacement.

22. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:11 AM

The Cubs could trade Mitch Atkins.

23. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:11 AM

throw in Lee with that group.

I don’t think Lee will be traded unless he wants to be. Hendry has shown his loyalty to players like Lee. With NYM possibly moving Delgado, Lee and Marmol would probably work for Beltran…at least it should.

24. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:20 AM

I doubt Lee will be traded as well, but one of the beat reporters mentioned he could be traded to a team on the west coast.  Probably just making shit up, but maybe not.

25. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:23 AM

I don’t think Lee will be traded unless he wants to be. Hendry has shown his loyalty to players like Lee. With NYM possibly moving Delgado, Lee and Marmol would probably work for Beltran…at least it should.

I honestly don’t think Lee will be traded either, we’ll hold on to him until he’s a FA and then he may sign one more contract, or he could reitre.  Hopefully he’ll be a near league average 1B for one more season.

That’s not what I want however.

26. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:28 AM

Mike Fontenot is a tradable commodity as well.  The Mets could really use a 2B as well.  Particularly at the price Mike Fontenot will be at.

27. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:41 AM

I doubt Lee will be traded as well, but one of the beat reporters mentioned he could be traded to a team on the west coast.  Probably just making shit up, but maybe not.

It might be a distorted perception but the Cubs beat writers, especially Paul, don;‘t usually make reference to specific players unless they truly believe something will happen.  It always seems to start with innocent comments like that and then 2-3 months later there is some drama spun up allowing the cubs to trade a player without major backlash from the fans.

28. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 07:09 AM

I don’t completely understand the options process, but AZ Phil shows Fukudome has 4 options left (which is absolutely correct), but I wonder if he can refuse an option.

The local radio guys here in Des Moines yesterday mentioned that Fukudome has a clause in his contract that his Japan league time counts as MLB service time.  Therefore, he’d have to approve being sent to AAA.

29. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 07:46 AM

Remember that pre-arb players are paid the league minimum, roughly $400,000, if they are on the 25-man roster. It adds up.

30. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 08:05 AM

I doubt Lee will be traded as well, but one of the beat reporters mentioned he could be traded to a team on the west coast.  Probably just making shit up, but maybe not.


Lee’s not going anywhere unless he wants to go, since he’s got a no-trade clause.

31. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 08:13 AM

So, if Cub fans are finally tired of giving everything they got for 162 games, only to watch unbearable baseball played by guys whose knees must be shaking, then so be it.

What is this guy talking about?  Only a retarded Cubs fan would be tired of watching playoff baseball.  He acts like the Cubs are there every single year and have done nothing.  Jesus Christ.  Does he remember what organization this is?

1) the cubs didn’t play 162 games
2) they didn’t give it there all the last 5 or 6 games of the 161 they did play

32. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 08:16 AM

IMO, if you let Wood go, they have to find someone as good as him. He’s not better than Marmol, but he’s better than most. I think a 2nd dominating option is a must for the bullpen in the playoffs, even if it only matters 3 or 4 times in an entire World Series run (or none like this year).

33. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 08:35 AM

I sent an e-mail to my boss a bit ago that said, “I’m still waiting on [something.“ I almost put ‘(dying laughing)’ at the end.

34. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 09:08 AM

Lee’s not going anywhere unless he wants to go, since he’s got a no-trade clause.

How many players use that clause?  5%?  15%?  Lee’s not sticking around if the Cubs don’t want him.  If the Cubs try to trade Lee, all he’ll do is use that clause to try to get the Cubs to trade him to a team he wants to go to.

35. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 09:11 AM

Remember that pre-arb players are paid the league minimum, roughly $400,000, if they are on the 25-man roster. It adds up.

Actually, all players on the 40-man roster count, but I had forgotten that here.  That’s about an additional 5-6 million.

36. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 09:12 AM

The local radio guys here in Des Moines yesterday mentioned that Fukudome has a clause in his contract that his Japan league time counts as MLB service time.  Therefore, he’d have to approve being sent to AAA.

That makes some sense or that he negotiated that he can’t be optioned without his approval.

37. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 09:23 AM

Sam, I’m still waiting for your prospect list. (dying laughing)

38. BellwetherMeltdown — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:00 AM

Ok… Options


if you are “Optioned” that means you go from the 25 man roster down to the 40 man roster (the bottom 15 if you will) correct?

I get this… so now every player starts with 3(?) options or 4? And how exactly do they work? Are they per trip, or per year? IE if you option a player in may, bring him back in june, then send him back down in july, is that two options?

39. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:15 AM

Options begin as soon as the player is added to the 40-man roster.  Players who are drafted at age 18 (high school players) have 5 years before they need to be protected (placed on the 40-man roster) and players older than 18 when drafted have 4 years before they need to be on the 40-man roster. 

Let’s use Felix Pie as an example.  He was added to the 40-man roster prior to the 2006 season (November of 2005 actually).  He has 3 options, or did as of November 2005.  He was optioned to the minor leagues in 2006 so he had 2 options remaining.  He was optioned again in 2007 so he had one left and was again optioned in 2008. 

An option is an entire year.  Pie was optioned to Iowa in 2007, called back up, and then optioned back to Iowa again before being re-called.  These are all part of one option.  A player must spend 10 days on optional assignment unless an injury to the big league club. 

Now let’s use Josh Vitters as an example.  He was drafted in 2007 out of high school so he has to be placed on the 40-man roster within 5 years or the Cubs would risk losing him in the Rule 5 Draft.  So, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012.  Partial years do not count.  He’ll have to be added to the team’s 40-man roster no later than November 2012 or the Cubs could lose him in that year’s Rule 5 Draft.  The team who claimed him would then have to keep him on their 25-man roster for one season or return him to the Cubs.

Let’s say the Cubs wait until 2012 (November) to add Vitters to the 40-man roster.  Beginning with the 2013 season he would have 3 options.  Those have to be used before a player gets 5 years of service time.  They could use them in 2013, 2014, and 2015 at which point he’d have to remain on the Cubs active roster (25-man roster) beginning in 2015 or be placed on waivers.  Once a player has 5 years of service time he can decline any remaining options.  So let’s say Vitters was added in 2012 and called up and spent the 2013, 2014 and 2015 seasons with the Cubs.  He would still have 2 options left (1 being used in 2012) and he’d only have 3 years of service time.  So the Cubs could option him to the minors in 2 more years as long as he does not have the 5 years of service time.

40. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:16 AM

so now every player starts with 3(?) options or 4? And how exactly do they work?

You get optioned if you’re hispanic and you get drunk and yell at people.

Sincerely,

AZ Phil

41. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:24 AM

Soriano isn’t even running out the box again.  Jesus.

42. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:35 AM

If the Cubs try to trade Lee, all he’ll do is use that clause to try to get the Cubs to trade him to a team he wants to go to.


That’s true but it also cuts down the number of teams you can deal with. I’d be surprised if he goes anywhere.

43. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:39 AM

I’d be surprised if he goes anywhere.

Arrest this man. He talks in maths. He buzzes like a fridge. He’s like a detuned radio.

44. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:40 AM

Oh, and Lee is from Sacramento. If he wants to go “home,“ he won’t go to LA or SD. He’ll go to OAK or SF.

45. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:42 AM

That’s true but it also cuts down the number of teams you can deal with. I’d be surprised if he goes anywhere.

I would be too, but when you consider the only teams that would have interest in him would be contenders, I think the odds of him vetoing any trade would be slim to none.  I don’t think he’ll go anywhere.  I just don’t think a no-trade clause is a big deal.  Players get traded with those all the time.  It just gives the players some peace of mind knowing they won’t be called up in the morning telling them to pack their shit because they’ve been traded.

46. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:43 AM

Oh, and Lee is from Sacramento. If he wants to go “home,” he won’t go to LA or SD. He’ll go to OAK or SF.

Neither of those teams will be contenders so I can’t imagine either of them having interest. 

I could see the Angels having interest assuming they won’t be able to re-sign Tex.

47. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:46 AM

Olney says the Cubs are one of nine teams interested in Orlando Hudson.

48. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:47 AM

Hudson is pretty much worthless against righties.

49. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:49 AM

If we’re going to go after someone named Hudson, how about we go after Tim or Kate?  Tim’s a pretty good pitcher and Kate’s just hot.

50. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:49 AM

Neither of those teams will be contenders so I can’t imagine either of them having interest.

That’s fine, but I just get sick of seeing how DLee might want to go home to LA. That would be like me going home to Mexico… Actually it would be like me going home to LA since I’m originally from Sacramento.

51. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:51 AM

Tim’s a pretty good pitcher and Kate’s just flat.

Fixed.

52. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:52 AM

Who has said Lee wants to go home?  I haven’t read that, but I don’t read much from these buffoons anymore.

53. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:52 AM

Who has said Lee wants to go home?

I don’t know, some retard.

54. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 10:53 AM

Tim’s a pretty good pitcher and Kate is two boob jobs away from being really hot.

Fixed.

55. snley — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:07 AM

Tim’s a pretty good pitcher and Kate is two boob jobs away from being really hot.

To paraphrase “Weird Science”, anything more than a handful is unnecessary.  Hudson is really hot.

56. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:12 AM

Agreed, snley.

57. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:15 AM

To paraphrase “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas”, there’s two women fucking a polar bear.

Fixed.

58. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:20 AM

Tim’s a pretty good pitcher and Kate is two boob jobs away from having boobs.

Fixed.

59. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:27 AM

I get the impression you like chicks whose boobs sag down to their knees.

60. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:33 AM

you like chicks whose boobs sag down to their knees.

I just like a woman to clearly be a woman. I have bigger boobs than Kate Hudson.

61. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:33 AM

To paraphrase “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas”, there’s two women fucking a polar bear.

How much do they pay ya to fuck that bear?

62. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:41 AM

If you have bigger boobs than Kate Hudson, you’re a chick, Ryno.

63. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:46 AM

How much do they pay ya to fuck that bear?

Good question.

64. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:47 AM

If you have bigger boobs than Kate Hudson, you exist.

Fixed.

65. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:49 AM

Why’d you remove the seizure inducer, Maddog?

66. Faith — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:52 AM

I dont get the whole sign dunn thing. he’s a guess hitting hack just like soriano. we dont need another.

I BELIEVE!!!! GO CUBBIES!!!!!!!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Oct 9, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply   0 recs

Awesome. Just, awesome.

67. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:53 AM

That’s the first time I’ve seen Dunn’s style equated to Sorryano’s.

Neifi Perez is a guess hitting hack too. Just like George Ruth.

68. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 11:57 AM

Why’d you remove the seizure inducer, Maddog?

Because I actually have epilepsy.  No amount of medicine was going to control it with that image.

69. Jame Gumb, editor-in-chief ® — Oct 09, 2008 @ 12:00 PM

Because I actually have epilepsy.

Well I knew that…so why’d you put it up, then?

70. Maddog — Oct 09, 2008 @ 12:03 PM

It was a picture of Kate Hudson and then the stupid-ass hotlink protection that some sites do changed it to that.

71. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 12:09 PM

Olney says the Cubs are one of nine teams interested in Orlando Hudson.

Good because his sources are as credible as Phil Rogers.

72. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 12:15 PM

Olney also says that the Yankees could sign him and move Cano to first.

And no, I’m not kidding.

73. BellwetherMeltdown — Oct 09, 2008 @ 12:36 PM

Thanks for the option clarifications.


I want Adam Dunn so badly. I’m positively gay for him.

74. Harry Pavlidis — Oct 09, 2008 @ 12:38 PM

he’s a guess hitting hack just like soriano.

Wow, that’s some stoopid.  Dunn is half as likely as Soriano to chase a pitch out of the zone.  And he’s even a little less likely to swing in the zone.  Overall, they are at opposite ends of the swing rate and chase rates.  Here’s some more on Cubs trade/sign targets/pipe-dreams.

http://www.cubsfx.com/2008/10/getting-stove-ready-cubs-rumors.html

75. Harry Pavlidis — Oct 09, 2008 @ 12:39 PM

I’m positively gay for him.

back of the queue, Bell.

76. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 01:17 PM

Nice chart Harry.  I think I know what most of those categories mean.  Dunn is an interesting subject because if he’d lower his Watch rate he’d probably have the BA teams/fans clamor after.

77. Harry Pavlidis — Oct 09, 2008 @ 01:40 PM

the “watch” rate is takes in the zone, “chase” is swings out of it.  So, yes, he’d be more Theriot like.

78. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 01:46 PM

the “watch” rate is takes in the zone, “chase” is swings out of it.  So, yes, he’d be more Theriot like.

With his power that probably isn’t the worst thing.

79. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 02:19 PM

I want Furcal and Dunn. Furcal and Dunn. Furcal and Dunn.

80. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 02:29 PM

Furcal’s like Theriot, except he’s faster and stronger. What’s ISZ and PAINT?

81. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 02:32 PM

It’s not so much that Dunn has a good eye, just that he knows what he can hit and waits for it. Give enough pitchers enough time, and you’ll walk. But you’ll also risk striking out.

It’s nice having statfag statshit confirm your opinions.

82. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 02:36 PM

i don’t like the way you blog. you don’t blog the right way. we should ship you out of town.

83. Harry Pavlidis — Oct 09, 2008 @ 04:00 PM

ISZ is pitches seen (or thrown, for a pitcher) in the zone, paint is just off the corner, but within the 2 foot wide zone that is, in reality, what the game is played to.

84. Harry Pavlidis — Oct 09, 2008 @ 04:24 PM

I just added Beltran and Edmonds.
http://www.cubsfx.com/2008/10/getting-stove-ready-cubs-rumors.html

What other stats do you guys want to see, pitchf/x or otherwise, on this running list?

85. — Oct 09, 2008 @ 04:58 PM

What other stats do you guys want to see, pitchf/x or otherwise, on this running list?

R+RBI

86. Harry Pavlidis — Oct 09, 2008 @ 06:18 PM

R+RBI

too esoteric

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