Coaches Poll -- Its 4th and Long -- Are they ever right

Pre-season rankings are a joke as we saw last year but i do like having the OSU outside the top 2 they odnt deserve to be there. USC may have a QB issue but they are very very talented espiecally on D

you know your going to get bit in here with those words don't you? LOL.... I take it your a USC fan?

Nah im a cal fan

ahh a golden bears fan.

I guess when a top tier D-1A program has 22 returning starters back on Offense and Defense, and just ended the previous 2 season with appearances in the BCS National title games (regardless of losing both games) they were there. Actually the Buckeyes have been in that very game 3 of the last 6 yrs.......................

Ohio State is not going any where folks................

tru that

If they played a better non conference schedule they wouldnt get there......no way! Sept 13th will show that!!

are you talking about OSU?

The Buckeyes love to feast on Youngstown St. and Indiana, then coast to the BCS Championship and get trounced. At least the trouncing will come early in the year.

lol

FlaBuckeye, I see that Ohio State suspended cornerback Donald Washington and backup safety Jamario O'Neal for the first two games of the season for violating team policy. Was it Drinking?

I see that both players will miss the season opener against Youngstown State and the next game against Ohio University. Those aren't games, those are just practices.

The Ohio State spokeswoman Shelly Poe confirmed Friday that Washington and O'Neal were suspended, but did not give details and I couldn't find anything else... So what are you guys doing in Ohio man? LOL.....

Sophomore Chimdi Chekwa likely will replace Washington in the lineup.

I asked the same question and got no response. Our local media has a way of passing up stories that will make OSU look unfavorable. The good news is however they won't risk injury facing the "powerhouse" Youngstown State. What a joke of a schedule OSU has

It is easy for sure... Take a look at our Quad Reports on the Top 21 Teams. Today is Penn State. Look at all the info we put in there for these teams and tell if we are missing anything and please tell others about it.

You can see todays at the following link below:

http://www.yardbarker.com/college_football/articles/NCAA_FOOTBALL_TEAM_PROFILES_From_THE_QUAD_Todays_TEAM_18_PENN_STATE/304433

?? what??? they are going places.. down.. in peoples hearts and minds across the united states.. the got completely dominated on 2 different terfs by 2 different s.e.c. teams... your only hope is that the s.e.c. continues to beat on one another all season long.. then. they get crappy ranks and loose chance of the bcs bowl. which has came very close to happening the past years.

other wise. watch out for clemson, looking at their schedule they should only loose 2 games.. ( sec teams)

At times , the preseason rankings are a joke. In 2000, OU wasn't even in the top 20 and ended up winning a national title. Most of the time , they are close. There are always going to be surprises, but the usual suspects are in the top 20 most of the time.

Hey, 5, thought you died man, where you been?

Busy......don't have the time I used to.

Please give me an educated reason why they (tOSU) doesn't deserve to be there?

BB, you asking me?

As per ohiostbucks1, OSU should be ahead of USC but since they play its not a big deal but here's some writers that don't hate on OSU and agree

The Preseason USA Today Coaches' Poll has been released. Forgetting that none of the coaches could name the starting quarterbacks for half the teams they voted for, the poll has to be taken with some grain of skepticism. Unfortunately, the poll means everything, since the BCS rankings, for all the pops and whistles coming from the computers, really comes down to the two polls (the Harris being the other). So here's what it all means ...

- Top Five Overrated Teams (remembering that the idea is to ranks teams on how good they are going into the season and not where they will end up): Virginia Tech (15, should be around the 20s), Auburn (11, should be around the 20s), Arizona State (16, should be around 25), Florida State (29, should be around 40), and Virginia (38, should be around 50).

- Top Five Underrated Teams: Penn State (22, should be top 15), Boston College (31, should be top 20), Michigan State (40, should be 25ish), South Carolina (27, should be top 20), Ohio State (3, based on how good the team is coming into the season, it should at least be 2).

- Basically, four teams are in the driver's seat: Georgia (1), USC (2), Ohio State (3), and Florida (5). The winner of the Ohio State - USC game on September 13th will play for the national title if it wins out, and the winner of the Florida - Georgia showdown in Jacksonville on November 1st will be playing in Miami on January 8th if it wins out.

- Here's my biggest issue. If you want to rank Georgia 1, fine. I don't agree, but no problems here. I want all the coaches who voted USC over Ohio State as the better team RIGHT NOW to explain how and in what way the Trojans are better. The receiving corps has done jack-squat, the O line is a major question mark, Mark Sanchez is fine, but he hasn't been Matt Leinart yet, and the D line needs retooling. The running backs in USC are far better, the Ohio State defensive back seven might be a wee bit worse than USC's, but not by much, and the special teams are better. So tell me, coaches, how is USC better than Ohio State in this poll (or Georgia, Oklahoma or Florida)?

Ill tell you why Sc is ranked higher...1. they're better! 2. Illinios beat OSU at the shoe and SC beat them like a pop warner club.3. Do you really think SC would have allowed LSU with that crappy D to dominate them the way they did OSU. 4. OSU needs to quit scheduling Youngstown State, Ohio U., Kent State.......its a turnoff!!!!

I'm not saying I agree with you or not, but you do have to consider that scheduling is done years in advance and its usually who has an opening when the other one does and a game is better than no game and Strength of schedule is figured into the overall ranking for BCS, not coaches, USA or AP as much, their about match ups, key wins and if you lost in the last part of the season or beginning?

Just for kicks, are you for or against a playoff system?

you know I ask 'cause some say folks will schedule easier games through out the season to beef records to make playoffs. I don't think they would and feel safeguards would be put in place for that.

How it would work is beyond me, I just want fair and solid games.

No I am not for a playoff. I am for a position that you cannot schedule 1AA schools and remaim BCS eligable. I know scheduling is done years in advance but Youngstown State and Kent State wont belong on the same field as OSU in thirty years thats why they're 1AA.

Some folks like OSU will schedule 1AA. Most of the sec does the same. Have you noticed the past 4 years running SoCal has scheduled SEC teams and absolutely demolished them. They wont be scheduling the Trojans again. SC ducks noone at no time just BRING IT ON!

that I agree with, I was just bringing out a point not saying it was the right one, LOL...But I will say that App. St and Mich. games was a very good game.

this year those 2 are solid and another reson why I said they are one of the more power houses in the NCAA. But, Georgia and Florida will be a tough gig this year over LSU.

Probably, one of the only teams in the country who doesn't pad their scheduled first 2-3 games with patsies is N.D. Did you see that schedule they had last year? Geeze!!!! Nobody is going to get through that undefeated......no matter how good they think they are.

as an independent, their claim to fame is, we will take on all comers, any time, any place and we'll let the chips fall where they may. I like that approach, but it has held them back I think from a few championship titles in their history.

Yes, it does set them back some and maybe keeps them from playing in a title game, for sure. I think Weiss may be on the hotseat if he doesn't win 9-10 games this year.

na, not yet, I see 7 or 8 W's if their lucky and catch some breaks. The first one will be how much hot water Clussen (spelling) is in with that beer thing. Some say sit him for a few games for bad team conduct as per ND guidelines. If that happens, 7 or 8 goes to 4 or 5, and that may even be lower depending on how long they give him.

In my option I agree here... LET'S GET SOME THINGS STRAIGHT.

A) The BEST conference... BY FAR... this year is the SEC.

B) A 3 loss SEC Team would go Undefeated in the Big 10? YOU ARE AN IDIOT! ....

FLORIDA WAS a 3 loss SEC team last year! Dummy. Take a wild guess at who there 4th loss was to!!! A 4 LOSS BIG 10 TEAM IN MICHIGAN!!!! Holy god you have no clue what you're talking about.

C) Tennessee BARELY beat Wisconsin last year... WISCONSIN was in 4th place in the Big 10!

D) Since you're an SEC fan I bet you think the BIG 12 is weak too... right? Arkansas really crushed Mizzo last year in the bowl... NOTTTTTTT!! 38-7..

SEC is the BEST overall conference, BUT They are no almighty power. Enough with the... "They would be undefeated in the Big 10"... try beating our 3rd place team before you go after that one.

The SEC is a strong conference top to Bottom, and as my buddy said to me in #3 via CBS Blog, I think the PAC-10, and BIG 12 this year will also be tough top to bottom.

so in response to his #3 comment letter B) I think that USC, and depending on where it is played, the Ducks, UCLA and the Cal Golden Bears could give a 3 loss SEC team a good game and even win.

To be fair, Arkansas didnt even run DMC and Felix that much because they were going to be showcasing at the senior bowl and did not want to get hurt in a meaningless bowl game...

I'd bet there is some truth to that one, its about the future at that time and of course the $$$$$$$

Here's some food for thought...

Think about this. What this tells us is that come the end of the season Georgia will most likely be the highest ranked undefeated team, highest ranked one loss team, or highest ranked 2 loss team,....get the theme I'm throwing out there. Because of preseason polls its almost a guarantee that you can't jump a team with the same amount of losses when the polls come before it's decided who plays who in bowl games.

Example:

Last year LSU was ranked preseason #2...Oklahoma was ranked preseason #6 i believe. With both the same amount of loses at the end of the season OU stands no chance of jumping LSU with the same number of losses. THis is the disaster with the preseason polls. If the preseason polls from last year were reversed with LSU being #6 and OU being preseason ranked #2...there would have been a different national champion.

okielou wrote this last Friday, its pretty good.

I was on a Cruise recently and was getting on an elevator. The door was closing and I saw a man running towards the elevator, so I put my hand in the door so it would not close. When he got on the elevator I noticed that he had on a red Ohio State Buckeye shirt. He said thank you, and I said no problem, a LSU Tiger fan is more than happy to hold the door open for a Buckeye fan, He turned red in the face and walked off of the elevator. I'd say that was real good sportsman ship.

In regards to your question on how can the coaches pick USC over Ohio St. or any other of the teams mentioned, is history.

USC would have given LSU a much better game Than Ohio St. in the BCS Championship game. USC was a lot better at the end of the season then they were at the begining of the season. I dislike USC just based on the fact they are picked High every year, but they usually prove the Pollsters right at the end of the year.

Ohio St. has a very good football team, but until your conference gets stronger, USC will most likely always be picked. Strength of schedule plays a large part in predictions. I don't like it but it is a fact.

I'm Okla. fan living in Louisiana so you can just about guess how much crap I get. They think they are the strongest conference in the land, and they are very strong, but I wouldn't come right out and say they are the strongest. But they will hav e a hard time haveing a team in the BCS championship game the way they play each other. I do think that Okla. is picked about 2 spots higher then they should be.

Ohio St. should be picked in the top 3 or 4, because I don't think they lost to many players, but no over USC at this point.

Let them play the game, then we will know.

forsaken wrote this around 1:30 this afternoon...What do you guys think? He said,

First off,
being ranked #3 is getting hated on and of course their underrated, quit whining.

Second,
who's the better team right now and who has been the better team for the last five years, at least.

WR
Turner and Hazelton being big with great hands, good luck in the red zone!
Compare that with OSU who has, uhhh who?

OL
Two starters are back and the other three started at least 2 games last year.
Again, they have the two top OT's coming in as freshman.

QB
Mark Sanchez, versus whichever OSU QB, I'll take Sanchez.

DL
the D-Line has the best rated DT in CFB right now and you will be hearing about a kid from AZ at DE real soon, don't worry.

RB
USC has had the best stable of running backs in the nation for going on five years now.
They have more of a heritage in that department than OSU.
Think RB=Heisman at USC: Reggie Bush, Charles White, Marcus Allen, O.J. Simpson, and Mike Garrett (the current A.D.)

Back 7
Taylor Mays, a sefety that runs a 4.45 40 at 225 and OSU will serve well to remember where he is at all times.
Maualuga, Laurinitis is a great player, but guys like Maualuga, who is a monster, show up once every ten years, maybe.
Plus Brian Cushing is no slouch as he will also be one of four top 20 picks coming out of this USC Defense.

USC has brought in better quality talent!

Remember quality not quantity!

Can't wait till September at the Coliseum.

This pic is for Forsaken......................

with QB injury it will be tough for them now...

Can I put into perspective this SEC dominance over the Big 10..............First off the Big 10 is 1 plus in the Bowl matchups against the SEC since the BCS. Second , proponents of this claim are getting caught up in the Buckeyes noticeably O fer against the mighty SEC ( LOL) schools. And being a Buckeye fan........it hurts , But .....citing that stat alone as proof that the SEC dominates the Big 10 over all misses the point. Hello, there are other teams in the Big 10 . Penn State has beaten almost every SEC school it has played since 1992 ( and often in a blowout), losing twice to Auburn and Florida. Michigan has beaten Florida twice, Alabama, Arkansas, and Auburn. Ohio State's past two Bowl blunders is dominating the converstion about Big 10 vs SEC matchups.
If Ohio State's big donut against the mighty SEC serves as adequate grounds for evaluating the Big 10 / SEC matchups, then that would be precedent for asking a more serious question.......................Why can't the SEC beat Minnesota ( Arkansas, Alabama ) and why can't thay hang with that 1,000 Lakes Speed??

Whats the story with the Big 10 in the Rose Bowl

Who you asking, Fighton?

flabuckeye, he seems to think the big 10 is a stronger conference than both the sec and pac 10......hes high

ask him to name his top 5 conferences, by the way, what say you, to the top 5 conferences this year?

I would rather not. To me its really not the point each conference has a style for instance the pac 10 plays west coast with highly creative offenses, if you were from the big 10 lets say, if you hadnt recruited to that style someone who shouldnt will come bite you on any given week and vice versa. And that same analogy goes for the SEC they would encounter problems in any conference on a week to week basis. If you remember a few years back if it hadnt been for the Oregon st. kicker missing 2 extra points @ lsu the game would have never went into ot. So, the point is now matter what conference you better play every week for the most part.