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Pitbull_killer

17 days ago

what you think , who is the best :Brock Lesnar or fedor emilianenko ?

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tikitmb said 17 days ago

Fedor!
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GGtheOldMan said 17 days ago

Fedor.
Brett was manhandling Fedor yet he kept his composure. He was constantly looking for opportunities to finish the fight, which he did. Brock can't stand up with Fedor and I think Fedor is too skilled on the mat to be held down and pounded. I would love to see them fight. Problem is Fedor is more concerned with his principles than his money. Dana doesn't comprehend that.
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antagonist said 17 days ago

i think his principles aren't the only thing between fedor and the ufc. when fedor signs with a promotor, it's not just fedor signing, it's m1 plus a lot of other baggage, and dana won't go for it. the ufc will never co-promote and fedor will never not be a part of m1, so it'll never happen.

regarding the question posted, fedor would no doubt win. he is never overwhelmed in any position. his genetic makeup as a fighter has him continuing to battle, no matter how bad the position or how damaged he is, he never quits. he's a machine.
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Pitbull_killer said 16 days ago

fedor is number one , 31-1 ...
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razah12 said 16 days ago

Fedor!
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mitressehc said 16 days ago

Fedor. There is no comparison. Would love to see that fight though.
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- tikitmb replied 16 days ago
  
  this is a really great site to find most fights, you usually have to wait about a day after though.
  
  http://mmahits.com/fighters/fedor-emelianenko/strikeforce-fedor-emelianenko-vs-brett-rogers-fight-video/
- tikitmb replied 11 days ago
  
  Oops... belatedly I see you were talkin about Fedot vs lesnar, my bad.
- mitressehc replied 10 days ago
  
  That's ok tiki.
Tinman24 said 16 days ago

Brock would take Fedor. He wouldn't stand with him, he would take him down (easily I might add) and then lay his 300 pound body on him and not give him any space to work subs and then pound out a decision. He displayed good strategy on how to defend subs against Mir by smothering him and he would do the exact same thing against Fedor and with Fedor giving up about 60 lbs and a huge strength advantage I don't see him overcoming that. Just being realistic, he's not superman, he can't stop Lesnar from taking him down and he wouldn't be able to sub him or get back up, so how does he win the fight. Sorry I'm not on the Fedor bandwagon.
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- Tinman24 replied 16 days ago
  
  P.S. Brett Rogers is a chump and so is every guy Fedor has fought since Cro Cop in 2005
- nathang replied 15 days ago
  
  His 300 lb body? LOL. Do your research lesnar himself says he weighs between 275-285 and he's not exactly ripped. Ya he's a good wrestler but fedor would bash the s**t out of him standing, he wouldn't last too long on the ground either, lesnar is either tapping or being saved by ref.
Clintmathewson said 16 days ago

i think brock would have to dry hump him for 5 rounds...cause any time fedor is standing.. is a chance for the fight to end. So either a REALLY BORING decision for brock...or a highlight reel ko for Fedor. My guess is Emelienenko by tko.
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- tikitmb replied 14 days ago
  
  Thats what I'm saying!
- crazycanuck replied 14 days ago
  
  Good call Clint!
Canuck said 16 days ago

There is only one way to find out....too bad we probably won't see it
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Francois said 16 days ago

Fedor is the best fighter p4p between the two but he would lose to Brock.Carwin has the best shot at Lesnar.Those two are real athletic heavy weight who are decent in every area.They would have 50 pound on Fedor on the fight day.This is like having M Torres fighting Dan Henderson or Franklin.To me Torres is better than those two but he would get his ass whoop anyway !
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- nathang replied 15 days ago
  
  WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY too much emphasis on weight, by your standards my mother would destroy fedor, weight is over rated, brock could easily weigh 250-260 if he lost some flab, you guys are nuts who thinks brock would win.
- tikitmb replied 14 days ago
  
  Francois your a bit off if you're saying Brock is decent in every area, his stand up sucks. He wins by keeping his opponents on the ground only, that makes him one dimensional. And I'm afraid he wouldn't be all that great on the ground either if 99% percent of the time he didn't out weigh his opponents by at least 50pds.
- Francois replied 11 days ago
  
  tiki,i got to give you that one!my bad!he had one good strike against Hearing and thats about it!
- Francois replied 10 days ago
  
  Still think Fedor is wayyyyyyyyy overated!I am not going to give him credit to fight washedup fighter once every two years(Tim Silvia,Arlovski)Wath a joke!p4p my a$$ BJ Penn would probably submit those two clown!!!
- tikitmb replied 10 days ago
  
  Ouch...LOL!
- derelique38 replied 10 days ago
  
  BJ Penn couldnt submit his mom if she was over 155, and you effing know it!!!
BYAnyWear said 15 days ago

Come on man lets be serious yea Brock is massive but he definately has holes in his game..mainly his submission defense. He's open for leglocks and i'm not jsut talking about that sht Mir did... i know people in that circle. You just dont' learn leg sub defense over night. SO if anything that's Brocks' loop hole.. and if he goes down on the mat with Fedor he would stand up for that simple fact. You've seen him do that before... he stands up he's open for a strike. We still technically haven't seen Brocks hands.. have we? WE've seen his takedowns and pound. Also anyone stating that Fedor hasn't fought anyone is "off" come on man we're talkin 30 fights with no "L's" most people can't beat 10 cans without a loss. I guess fighting Nog, Heath, Coleman, Crocop were nothing especially in Pride where allot of those matches were circus matches.either due to size or someone roided out their mind. Got to give it up to experience
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- Tinman24 replied 15 days ago
  
  I said very specifically that he has not fought anyone worth a sh!t since crop cop in 2005. Before that he had fought some top competition. Am I supposed to judge a fighters current status on fights he had almost 5 years ago. Matt Hughes was running the WW division in 05 and he isn't even top 3 in that division anymore due to the evolution of the sport. Fedor hasn't been susceptible to that evolution cause he has been fighting washed up bag boys for the last five years. I don't think Lesanr would kick his a$$ or knock him out, he would just win a decision cause he would control him on the ground and hammer fist and lay on him for 5 rounds, and if you think he would stand up after taking Fedor to the ground cause he is worried about leg submissions you need to put the pipe down and check out the Betty Ford Center for a while. Whether he won or lost the fight it would all take place on the ground. It's all hypothetical anyway cause we will never see that match up.
mitressehc said 15 days ago

Nah,..you're wrong on that Tinman, Fedor is a beast and the experience he brings will outmatch Brock 6 out of the 7 days in a week. It is hypothetical but it sure is fun to talk about.
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nathang said 15 days ago

No way tinman24. Only way brock wins IMO is a cut, like fedor's only loss. Brock is a complete joke skill wise compared to fedor, fedor is IMO THE best pound fighter out there, consider this, he's around 6 foot, 230 ish and fat, most light-heavy weights have more muscle than him and I bet some middle weights do too. Dana totally disrespects this guy, which totally baffles me, what an air head, he wouldn't know talent if it kicked him in the head.
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- tikitmb replied 14 days ago
  
  Dana knows exactly what type of talent he missed out on win he lost the opportunity to sign with Fedor.
  
  I swear Dana reminds me of a rejected ex that you turned down for the tenth time. Clearly your something special if he's trying to get back with you, but your all kinds of B!TCHES and HOES everytime you say no to his dumb a$$.
- Tinman24 replied 14 days ago
  
  Dude I couldn't agree with you more that Fedor is light years ahead of Lesnar in skill but I just think the size and strength advantage and the specific way Lesnar uses it is too much. He is in the infancy stage of learning MMA but the one thing he does have is good wrestling and a great base and good hips. Because of that he can use that strength and size to hold people down. It's kind of b!tch made but he can win fights against tough opponents by grinding out a decision just holing them down and doing just enough to not have the ref stand it back up. I don't even like Lesnar I just think he could beat Fedor. I would much rather see captain america beat the sh!t out of Fedor's over rated a$$. Everybody has got to love Couture.
BYAnyWear said 14 days ago

im not talking out my as I'm in MN and i know who's rolling with Brock at the academy and i'm telling you what his weakness is.. mf leglocks he's getting tapped by fkin middleweights "they're seasoned" middleweights like have been in the MMA game for over 15 years. BUt still that's something he hasn't perfected and that is a week spot..and if you want to go with the who he's fought in the last year route... who has Brock really fought? Choi..Garbage, Herring downhill so so garbage (that was tenderized already by who?..oh Fedor) Randy was giving Brock the business for a round, Mir...umm yea garbage. Talk about the whos' who that Brock fought when he gets back from his flu and fights Carwin, and then Nog...then i can say oh okay Brock is on top. 30+ wins man lets be real we're talking math ...not english
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- tikitmb replied 14 days ago
  
  Nice..........
- GGtheOldMan replied 14 days ago
  
  Interesting read.
  Nice to see people excited about HW's again.
- Tinman24 replied 14 days ago
  
  Hey man you are saying Mir is garbage but he handed Nog his a$$ on a platter. If Nog is a big challenge then so was Mir. He also stopped Couture who is the captian of the bada$$ team. Don't cheapen the win by saying Couture won a round, because he got beat definitively in the end and that is all that matters. That's like saying the Arlovski fight doesn't matter because Andre was winning the fight against Fedor right up to the point when he got knocked out.
- tikitmb replied 14 days ago
  
  Tinman24, Nog a a life threatening staff infection, you have to take that into account when passing judgement on why he lost.
- tikitmb replied 14 days ago
  
  oops... that should have been "had a life threatening staff infection".
- Tinman24 replied 12 days ago
  
  I know, I'm Just **** the whole counterpoint thing. Just looking for some good hearted debate.
- Tinman24 replied 12 days ago
  
  wow I can't even say doing
l3adlntentions said 14 days ago

Fedor, Fedor whatever... Yes he "was" the man in the past and now is just an old man who as far as I'm concerned is protecting his big 0 in the L column !! It has nothing to do with ethics ==> as far as Im concerned Fedor just wants to stay with M1 and fight nobodys... IMO he is no longer P4P anything at all, he is afraid to put himself out there.

And thats fine, good for him but we all know thwe level of compitition is a lot higher in the UFC !!

Here is what I want to see ==> Couture vs Emilianenko. Say what You want but Randy's style against the cage and dirty boxing would pose a real problem for Fedor, just as it did against Lesnar. I still say Randy was winning against Lesnar before being TKO'ed

So I'm saying Fedor is the better fighter "BUT" Lesnar's power and gas tank would overcome and Lesnar would lay on top of Fedor and pound him until he is either cut or submitted by suffocation lmao
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- GGtheOldMan replied 14 days ago
  
  I think your first paragraph is BS but I agree with the rest of your post. Randy and Fedor is a great match-up. If Randy was younger he definitely would win. I still think it would be a good fight now but Randy's timing is off (that's why he got caught by Brock).Fedor will KO Randy. Fedor vs Lesnar is tough to call because what you say could be true, Fedor finishes fights. He ALWAYS finds a way to win. I think his edge on the stand up is HUGE and gives him the win.
- GGtheOldMan replied 14 days ago
  
  *but* Fedor finishes fights.
- tikitmb replied 14 days ago
  
  Agree with you totally Oldman. You been on vacation or something? I haven't had the pleasure of argueing with you for a long while... sad :-(
- GGtheOldMan replied 14 days ago
  
  Hey Tiki, got real busy at work. I was burned out. Just worked and slept. Project almost complete and I'm back for now. So Tiki, whatever you say..I disagree....lol
- tikitmb replied 14 days ago
  
  Phew... all is right in the world ;-D
- Clintmathewson replied 13 days ago
  
  GG is spot on with this one. Fedor does end fights. Hes not there to do anything else.
- derelique38 replied 9 days ago
  
  Change of tune clintus mcfaggus???
razah12 said 14 days ago

Line em' up, Fedor will knock em' down...
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BYAnyWear said 13 days ago

You have to be able to hold someone in position for dirty boxing to be effective...do you really think Randy is going to 1 be get in without getting hit 2 if he does obtain a clinch he'll be able to hold him against a cage and pound on him? Don't ref. the Brett Rogers clinch thing... that dude is stupid strong so that's a different scenario. If Randy tries that sht i can see a judo throw coming in a heartbeat. No disrespect to Randy but his chin is tender like Sundays' pot roast. Lets not brag about Mir who fought a dude that was 2 weeks off a staf infection. Also i wasn't "cheapenin" the win Mir had over Randy i'm saying you all are making Brock out to be a phenom when he was being handled by a 40 year old man...
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- Tinman24 replied 13 days ago
  
  Well I'm just saying that Fedor was being handled by a washed up Arlovski that can't even beat a top 5 contender anymore. And the 40 year old man reference doesn't hold as much water when you are talking about couture. He is not the typical 40 year old man.
BYAnyWear said 13 days ago

Also everyone is saying Fedor is ducking and yada yada ya...but nobody has questioned Danas' stronghold on his fighters, from their sponsors, post fight speech, to even kickbacks from being a video game. Fedor is technically "free" as a fighter he can fight almost in any organization and i'm sure most fighters envy that scenario because they can't do that. Don't be mad a man for getting his money in a sport in which a fighters careen spans roughly 8 years. Also ..if Fedor takes a L does that make him less of a HW considering his record?
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- tikitmb replied 13 days ago
  
  If the nay sayers take into account the points you have made, well their arguement wouldn't hold much water.
l3adlntentions said 11 days ago

GG is correct about my first paragraph... That paragraph was written in anger for the fact that I don't feel Fedor is restricting himself from to truly compete against the best in the world.

There are obviously a few reasons for this and I believe "Long Term" Financial Gain is one of them. Short Term, I truly believe UFC has made an unbelievable offer in the attempt to hopefully end up with all eyes looking to the UFC and to have "TITLE" recognition for worlds best Heavy Weight.

I dont dispute his record only the "Quality" of compitition offered up and wonder how he can keep his consideration for P4P or even Best HW without that level of compitition.

Has nothing to do lwith UFC or "Dana White" whom I feel will feed even GSP & Anderson Silva to the wolves if he thought it'd make a buck or gain himself fame.
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l3adlntentions said 11 days ago

GG is correct about my first paragraph... That paragraph was written in anger for the fact that I don't feel Fedor is restricting himself from to truly compete against the best in the world.

There are obviously a few reasons for this and I believe "Long Term" Financial Gain is one of them. Short Term, I truly believe UFC has made an unbelievable offer in the attempt to hopefully end up with all eyes looking to the UFC and to have "TITLE" recognition for worlds best Heavy Weight.

I dont dispute his record only the "Quality" of compitition offered up and wonder how he can keep his consideration for P4P or even Best HW without that level of compitition.

Has nothing to do lwith UFC or "Dana White" whom I feel will feed even GSP & Anderson Silva to the wolves if he thought it'd make a buck or gain himself fame.

Fact of the matter is... UFC has a better level of compition
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MONSTER said 10 days ago

Who cares about fedor......he is kimbo in his YouTube days,meaning he knocks out bums,big deal.......:)
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- mitressehc replied 10 days ago
  
  You're wrong. Fedor is no Kimbo.
- tikitmb replied 10 days ago
  
  You're trippin with that one Monster;-(
MONSTER said 10 days ago

Lol I don't mean they are on the same level I was saying their "legend" status was similar
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- derelique38 replied 8 days ago
  
  thats retarded
Canuck said 10 days ago

Fedor has more tools
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- MONSTER replied 9 days ago
  
  i know that canuck,i just really wanted to see him come fight ufc guys and not bums
- BYAnyWear replied 9 days ago
  
  can't blame him for his opponents he just fought whoever was in front of him....and beat them in an ideal fashion. Brett Rogers is a strong dude which means he can always knock people out if given the chance...he rained down the hammerfist on Fedor and Fedor came out of it and ultimately he won.. I bet you all are hollering cans..but in the same breath whenever Fedor fights you'll be rooting for the opponent across from him. He's going to fight Werdum... you're going to scream can, fights Overeem...can
mitressehc said 9 days ago

I think we are all disappointed with that Monster.
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MONSTER said 9 days ago

byanywear im not trying to down talk your "idol",and no i dont wish everyone he fights would beat him,i really dont care if he wins or not,but to me fedor is like a guy being the best football player in the xfl,who cares....."he hate me" lmao
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- derelique38 replied 8 days ago
  
  thats still retarded
- BYAnyWear replied 8 days ago
  
  I dont have idols i look at things from both sides everyone wants to see A. Silva fight GSP and Fedor vs Brock but we have to come to grips that it may never happen. Considering, Brocks' health issue probably wouldnt have happened regardless.
BYAnyWear said 8 days ago

and yea that he hate me sht was ruhtard
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MONSTER said 8 days ago

he hate me!!!!!!!!
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- derelique38 replied 8 days ago
  
  who yer daddy?
BYAnyWear said 8 days ago

i wonder if his friends still gives him sht about that.
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MONSTER said 8 days ago

remember when he was on the panthers? he was actually pretty good his first year with them at kick returner
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mitressehc said 8 days ago

I believe you guys are talking about Rod Smart. He was a good special teamer.
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MONSTER said 8 days ago

NO!!!!!! we are talking about HE HATE ME!!!! LOL just kidding i know his name is rod smart
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