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• FSUx407 said June 05, 2008

  at least Shields threw low, he could have thrown it at his head.

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  • soxaddict replied June 05, 2008

    So true, thats why I didn't expect Coco to charge the mound.
• mysportsrumors said June 05, 2008

  did crisp actually connect? it was hard to tell in that video. but regardless crisp is a little hot head for starting all of this last night with that slide.

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  • JohnnyBoy056 replied June 05, 2008

    It wasn't started by Coco. It was started by Bartlett who blocked second base with his knee earlier in the game, which resulted in Coco getting injured. Then he took out Iwamura a couple innings later. If I was Coco I would have done the same. By the way, did anyone noticed Coco getting pummeled as his teammates did nothing? That was BS. Stand up for your teammates. That would not have happened in Oakland.
    • mysportsrumors replied June 05, 2008

      i dont know i think the bartlett block of second was clean.. its same thing a catcher would do at home.
      • soxaddict replied June 05, 2008

        Sliding into second and sliding into home are two entirely different things. Sure it wasn't against the rules or anything but it's baseball etiquette.
    • SoxFan99 replied June 06, 2008

      Maybe Manny and the rest of the Sox didnt stand up for him because they thought he was wrong for charging the mound there
    • lightitup replied June 06, 2008

      What did you expect? Crisp is a punk and even his teammates know it.
    • psmax1 replied June 28, 2008

      Hey, his teammates can't stand him and his low-class mentality, that's why. It tells you something when his team won't back him up.
• beckett1 said June 06, 2008

  Exactly Soxaddict.

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• GMCarson said June 06, 2008

  I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I saw Coco's slide the night before, it was dirty. If another team would have slid into a BoSox 2nd baseman or SS like that you'd all be calling for his head. Coco deserved to be hit with a fastball.

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  • phightins26 replied June 06, 2008

    exactly...remember when duncan from the yanks slid cleats-up into second base against the rays during spring training and it sparked all sorts of sh*t? seems the rays stick up for their own, and i respect that BIG style
    • soxaddict replied June 06, 2008

      He didn't slide with his spikes up. He slid with his body, not his spikes. That's also a huge difference.
  • soxaddict replied June 06, 2008

    I don't blame them for hitting him. I saw it coming, I didn't see Coco charging the mound coming though. That caught me by surprise.
    • soxaddict replied June 06, 2008

      Also I had no problem with Shields swinging at Coco. My problem was with Crawford, Gomes, and Iwamura all taking the sucker punches on Coco after Navarro had him down.
      
      Navarro was probably the best guy in the entire fight. He gets props from me for doing what he was supposed to and trying to protect his pitcher by tackling Coco and keeping him down.
      • GMCarson replied June 06, 2008

        Soxaddict- glad to see you're looking at this from various perspectives, you're a true MLB fan.
• tball275 said June 06, 2008

  Sucker punched? Not quite. Shields' teammates had his back. They are protecting their pitcher. You charge the mound, you should get owned like Coco did last night.

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  • FSUx407 replied June 06, 2008

    I completely agree. Now, if Coco didn't deserve the bean, then I would have a different opinion. But Coco deserved the bean and SHOULDN'T have charged the mound.
    
    He got what he came for lol!
    • psmax1 replied June 28, 2008

      Wait until the next series with the Rays. Idiot Coco says that there is more to come. He should be expelled for the season if he continues to fan the flames.
  • soxaddict replied June 06, 2008

    No. You can have it one way or the other. Shields had his teammates back so he plunked Pedroia in the first inning. If that was the end of it, then fine but he ALSO hit Coco in the next inning. If you want to go the whole "having each others back" route, then Coco charged the mound because he had Pedroia's back because Pedroia wasn't the one that deserved to get hit.
    
    One way or the other, not both.
    • beckett1 replied June 06, 2008

      I agree Soxaddict. If he had a problem with Coco then he should have just hit Coco. It was a little more than a typical baseball brawl where no punches are thrown. Nobody got hurt fortunately. I will be going to at least two Red Sox games in late June against the Rays at Tropicana field.It should be very interesting.
• jsd11266 said June 06, 2008

  Coco got beat by Navorro! Sweeeeeeeeet! Yankess Rule!

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• brickz99 said June 06, 2008

  Coco didnt win, he got the shit kicked out of him

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• jdeeee said June 06, 2008

  Coco....what a big baby...after the take out slide that was cheap and then he gets plunked on the thigh....big deal...He better be suspended 6 games

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• ProlificJ23 said June 06, 2008

  He got the shit kicked out of him did he? That's an educated statement. As far as i could see it was a draw, but why i waste my thoughts on such matters scraggles me. Frankly the whole deboggle could've been avoided had coco beware, I mean coco puffs, i mean cococola simply apologized for his dirty slide the night before.

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• Rythmx2 said June 06, 2008

  Look at the vid, Coco dodges shields punch, then goes to throw a jab and doesnt connect, he grazed his shoulder and then Navarro went to bring him down and on the way down shields lands one right in Coco's face. Just watch for #33...forgot which vid tho.
  Go Mets!!

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• bennyboy said June 08, 2008

  in reply to soxaddict's posture that sliding into second base and home are totally different and his
  feelings about baseball "etiquette",PLAY HARD,PLAY CLEAN,PRACTICE GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP,
  AND IF YOU LACE UP YOUR SPIKES IN MLB,DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR PLAYING GOOD,HARD,CLEAN
  BASEBALL,THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN PLAYED.APPARENTLY YOU HAVE
  SOME DEEP ANGST WHEN YOUR MOM FORGOT TO PICK YOU UP FROM SOCCER PRACTICE.

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  • soxaddict replied June 08, 2008

    Your opinion stopped mattering the minute you used ALL CAPS TO TRY AND DESCRIBE YOUR SHABBY POINT.
    
    That said, it's a clean play to slide into someone with your spikes up. That doesn't mean you should do it. You won't get tossed out of a game for it unless you're karate kicking someone. You can also slide hard into second base if it's the 3rd out of the inning, will someone do it? No, that's reserved for a double-play breakup (yeah, I'm looking at you Coco!) but it's still against baseball etiquette to do it.
  • bennyboy replied June 08, 2008

    in my reply to soxaddict's review of my posting a response to his critique of my opinion,i have afew counterpoints.
    1.being a lifelong CHICAGO WHITE SOX FAN,i'm old school and i apoligize for if you were upset that i accidentally hit the "caps lock" key in my reply.
    
    2.this is the first reply that i have ever sent to a website,but you touched a nerve that warranted a.
    response.
    3.there is only 1 MLB team that uses "sox", soxaddict,that would be the CHICAGO WHITE SOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    4.in chicago we don't use words like shabby or etiqutte when it comes to professional sports
    5.have you ever played competive sports at any level.{T-ball excluded}
    6.Carlton Fisk cho
    se to use CHICAGO WHITE SOX hat/uniform at Cooperstown
    7.Bobby Orr ended his career with th Chicago Blackhawks
    
    
    
    6.boston fans should be proud for ruining bill buckners life for one miffed ground ball
    • soxaddict replied June 09, 2008

      1. It's ok, I heard it happens a lot on the South Side.
      2. I guess I feel special then.
      3. Wrong. You guys lost permission to do that when you didn't even pack the stadium the year after you won the World Series. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance?sort=home_avg&year=2006&seasonType=2) Show your team some love.
      4. That is very well apparent. I've seen A.J. Pierzynski play. He's worse than Coco.
      5. I pitched every year of my life until senior year of HS when I tore the ACL in my knee, so yeah.
      6. He played for Chicago longer than Boston. It would have been rude not to.
      7. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything BUT Bobby Orr was lied to by his agent and tricked into going to play with the Blackhawks. If you don't believe me, Google for the dickheaded disbarred Alan Eagleson.
      
      Your other 6. I was 2 when that happened but I still feel ashamed that Sox fans did that to him. I didn't blame him one bit when he gave a pissed off "who cares" comment in 2004 when the Sox finally won the WS. People had no right to make death threats and put him through the BS that they did.
      
      Welcome to the Internet where we play point:counterpoint.