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Gordon to Philadelphia??????????

submitted by bleedgreen7591
July 10, 2008  |  112 comments  |   Email to a Friend
I assure you, this is better. Third times the charm. Screw Adam Morrison. We don't need CHA to complete the trade. Sign and trade for Ben Gordon if he's signed to about $7 or $8 mil per year.

CHICAGO- Trade Ben Gordon and 2009 2nd Round Pick to Philadelphia

Philadelphia- Trade Willie Green and Reggie Evans and 2009 1st Round Pick and 2010 1st round Pick to Chicago

Why each team would do it? Chicago's bench consists of Joakim Noah, Sefalosha, and Cedric Simmons. Willie Green would prove to be better backup to Hughes Than Sefalosha as he has more weapons to score with and has decent passing skills. Chicago has almost no spark coming off the bench in the front court. Reggie Evans would be that high energy guy. Philadelphia obviously solves their "shooter" questions. Line up

PG- Andre Miller

SG- Ben Gordon

SF- Andre Iguodala

PF- Elton Brand

C-Sammy Boy

Bench:

Lou Will

Young

Speights

Smith

Maybe the temptation of Gaining two 1st round picks will be to much for Chicago to pass on.
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112 Comments On: "Gordon to Philadelphia??????????"

 
1. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Looks possible to me, hopefully this bodes better than my last article.

2. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Also, MJ doesn't seem to be able to convert the on court success off the court. He's made extremely questionable trades in his GM career. He traded Rip Hamilton away to the Pistons.

3. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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if lou will plays pg coming off the bench, then all we need is a backup guard

4. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Plus, I don't think hes part of the long term plan in chicago as he isn't the defender they want him to be. Just more and more bargaining chips.

5. DTRIK19 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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The starters as of now look like this: Dalembert, Brand, Young, Iggy, Miller. If a player, such as Gordon, was added...they would most likely be coming off the bench along with LouWill

5.1. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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But then my question is, why put Iggy at SG if you have Gordon? I'm a huge fan of Iguodala and even I'm sayin he has no shot what so ever. Lou Will can actually shoot and score, so the bench could have a shooter and a scorer along with the starting 5

5.1.1. DTRIK19 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Only because you can't Young on the bench...Young-Brand-Dalembert will be a force down low. Try to stop all 3, it won't happen. And a scorer off the bench is better than none at all, always great to have depth and a good rotation.

5.2. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Aside from line up issues, do you think this deal could work? I think that's the more important question.

5.2.1. DTRIK19 , July 14, 2008  |  Reply
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No...we dont have anybody they'd want and Gordon isn't worth 2 first round picks. They could get somebody just as good with one of those upcoming picks.

6. guttersnype , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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this would probably the worst trade ever in Chicago Bulls history. Ben Gordon (a reliable outside scorer who they offered $50m+ to just a year ago) for injury prone Adam Morrison (who they passed on in the 06 draft and has proven nothing in 2 years in the league). total homer trade

6.1. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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they have larry hughes, kirk hinrich, derrick rose, and thabo sefalosha who they feel is a better ball handler and defender. Where does gordon fit in? they don't need his scoring since they drafted rose. He turned that 5 yer $50 mil deal down because he wanted more, but he's not going to get more from any team. The most he should sign for is the MLE

6.1.1. DHeit31 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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That is the problem in your thinking. They do need Ben Gordon. Derrick Rose isn't a good scorer; he can't shoot. If the Bulls trade Gordon, they are left with Hinrich (inconsistent shooter), Hughes (bad shooter), Rose (bad shooter), and Sefolosha (not all the great, but improving shooter). That isn't good.

6.1.1.1. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008
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Morrison can dish the ball well for his size. If used at the 2, his size could be a good matchup. Derrick Rose drives to score. He kind of reminds me of D Wade. Can cross people over and drive in to score or dish out to score, but isn't that great of a shooter. Ben Gordon has been criticized in Chicago because of his lack of defense and ball handling. I'm just saying.

6.1.1.2. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008
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Paxson is too in love with Hinrich. He thinks that Hincrich can turn into the great shooter he showed flashes of.

6.1.1.3. DreadsSwayin , July 10, 2008
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all your trades and signings are totally one sided and give nothing to the other team. you seem like on of these people who offer ridiculous trades in fantasy leagues and actually expect the team to accept it because it helps u.

6.1.1.4. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008
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Ignore my last post. I was a phucking idiot for thinking it was good. On the other hand, chicago fans don't like him cuz he's apparently a hog and he didn't get along with skyles. With Derrick Rose and Larry Hughes coming into play, where does he fit in?

6.1.1.5. bleedgreen7591 , July 11, 2008
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Hey dreads, does that mean you might consider this possible? Man, I thought I completely lost you on my ideas for a minute there. Sorry about the last post. Also, I don't see why Comcast won't pay that tax. If they had a legit team playing every night that can contend for a title, then that rakes in loads more money from sponsors, ads, viewers, etc. They'd deff. make a profit.

6.1.2. webkid30 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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The big problem is that Gordon will NOT sign a contract close to the mid level exception. He's more like a 10mil per year or more player. Players like Jason Kopono sign MLE contracts. Gordon is a #3 draft pick who can go off for 30+ on any given night.

6.1.2.1. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008
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but he's a streaky scorer with limited ball handling and no defense. If he wanted the money, he should've signed last season when he was still worth it. Over the last season, he proved how inconsistent he could be. He has low value and nobody's going to give a big contract. I'm sure he wants to play next season.

6.1.2.2. webkid30 , July 10, 2008
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I hear you. I think he should garner more $ than Duhon, though (even if it was the Knicks that signed Duhon). If he can't get $10 mil he'll probably sign for 7 or 8 mil in a 1 year contract somewhere where he can showcase his talents. The Bulls didn't give him a good opportunity and once he has it I bet he'll be making $10 mil a season (I'm a big Gordon fan and I'm totally biased).

6.1.2.3. soolphillyfoot , July 10, 2008
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Sign and trade is always possible, but Comcast will not pay that luxury tax.

6.1.2.4. DreadsSwayin , July 10, 2008
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skiles is gone and most pg's dont come in the game as superstars (other than cp3 and deron williams) but look at chauncy, nash, ect. i think they ll give rose sometime and not give him the keys to the mansion quite yet. but yes, possibilties are possibilties

6.1.2.5. bleedgreen7591 , July 11, 2008
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Hey dreads, does that mean you might consider this possible? Man, I thought I completely lost you on my ideas for a minute there. Sorry about the last post. Also, I don't see why Comcast won't pay that tax. If they had a legit team playing every night that can contend for a title, then that rakes in loads more money from sponsors, ads, viewers, etc. They'd deff. make a profit.

6.2. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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and Adam Morrison has had one injury in his career, last year, and that was it.

6.2.1. DHeit31 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Adam Morrison was pretty bad in his lone season, and a knee injury does nothing to help that. I view him as strictly a three, which is a deep position for the Bulls.

6.2.1.1. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008
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At the start of his rookie season, wasn't that great. If you actually watched over the season, he progressed well. Averaged about 12 ppg.

6.3. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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8. Ben Gordon, Bulls: Of all the players who turned down lucrative contract extensions last summer, Gordon made the most mind-boggling decision. He turned down a five-year, $50 million deal that seemed above market value on a down season.



For him to recoup that money this summer seems almost impossible … and now that the Bulls have added Larry Hughes to the mix, it's no longer clear where Gordon fits into the picture.



There isn't a huge market for undersized 2-guards with streaky jump shots. Gordon is most likely to be the top restricted free agent not to have his offer matched, but he's going to struggle to get a huge offer from anyone. Gordon may be better off taking the Bulls' one-year tender offer.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=FreeAgents-080629test

6.4. DHeit31 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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I'm not so sure about worst trade ever. But yeah, everything else is true.

7. bdawkfan20 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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I would like to thank you for posting...... I've heard that the sixers have some interest in gordon. Granted these ARE RUMORS!!!! The only "Homer", this the one who has no opinion of his own..... but has fun busting on everyone elses. Gordon would put us over the top, and with the exemption they received from the 'Wolves' could be used in a sign and trade!!!!

7.1. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Sorry to bust your chops, but that was used to sign Brand. There's about $1.7mil left in cap and dealing Willie green and Reggie Evans would free up $7.9mil

8. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Maybe I'm conveying this the wrong way. I don't think this is necesarrily going to happen. I think it's a possibility to happen. I'm just trying to explore the options the sixers have realisticly and trying to come up with ways of how the sixers could acquire a shooting Guard. I Chose Gordon because the sixers were said to have pursued him before Free Agency started. That's all I know, RUMORS, not saying anything concrete. Just exploring options.

9. ssk719 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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why would Chicago trade Ben Gordon for a 2nd round pick?

10. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Adam Morrison and a 2nd because he doesn't really fit there anymore. Also, they exchange they're first round pick for pretty much a guaranteed lottery pick. Charlotte has picked 2nd, 5th, 3rd, 8th, and 9th respectively in their first rounds each year.

11. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Okay, I see I forgot to add something in the post. Philadelphia also sends 2010 first round pick to CHI

12. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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The more I think about this, the more it deosn't make sense. Hold on, I'll make a few changes.

13. htkrocks , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Ben Gordon's not worth 2 players AND 3 draft picks to me.

13.1. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Depends on the situation. If we do get him, that line up is scary and we are deff. at least top 2 teams in the east behind boston. That makes us a serious contender, and could bring us a parade down broad street. But I'm really thinking about this now, and I Fuked this up. I'll probably try something else soon.

15. jrizza , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Isn't Eddie House WAY more realistic? He made $1.5 million last year. Gordon turned down the equivalent of $10 million a season. The difference in three point pct is negligible between the two.

15.1. jared360 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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100% agreed

16. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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I don't know. The key words are "made....last....and year". He's probably gonna go with a team tha offers him around $5 mil, which we can't offer him. Also, Gordon can score in more ways than one, unlike House.

17. ctphilly205 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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i wouldnt like this because the sixers are already low on picks in the next couple years and ben gordon has never really won in the nba, he is a proven scorer but his shooting percent is shaky and he wouldnt exactly fit into the sixers style

18. Jayblen , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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With all due respect... Eddie House is a complimentary player... he is not a starter... He is quick "O" off the bench... but dont get it twisted... he is a baller

Ben Gordon, on the other hand, is a starter... I dunno if Id pay him 10 mil... but if we can get him for Reggie and Willie... Im all in...

19. htkrocks , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Gordon is at his best coming off the bench which is why he won 6th man of the year his rookie season. He only starts due to injuries and Chicago struggle then. Last year he played 72 games with 27 starts. He's worth no more than $6-7 million a year

19.1. webkid30 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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He never got along with Skyles and that affected his starting status, playing time, and points. He'll be a premier 2 guard in this league when it's all said and done.

19.2. jared360 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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agreed

19.3. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Valid arguement, but isn't he still a HUGE upgrade over Willie Green?

19.4. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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If I'm not mistaking, didn't they put him at the point?

20. Dawks08 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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what the Phuck? whait next y6ear and get michael redd or t-mac and then we have the most complete roster in the game jesus

20.1. jrizza , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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With what money?

20.1.1. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Agreed

21. htkrocks , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Another option could be(and this is mainly if ATL keeps Josh Smith) possible while we're at it......

Send Willie Green, Reggie Evans to ATL in a sign and trade for Josh Childress.

Then....do a sign and trade with Lou Williams and a 2nd rounder for Daniel Gibson(depending on what he signs for).

That would boost the offense(two capable shooters), keep the core intact and the Sixers would still have a young, starting-capable PG if Andre Miller bolts after the season. And they'd have to cap space to do it then. The question is if ATL and CLE are willing to make those moves.

21.1. bleedgreen7591 , July 10, 2008  |  Reply
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Lou Will is what made our bench work last year. Without him, we got nothing. We'd be losing out big time.