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• OldTimeHockey said April 09, 2009

  would you rather have bobby hoying, kobb, pete, peterson, ryan, or some other sub-par QB.
  
  or do you think that the eagles should get the AFL philadelphia soul's QB to play for the birds. with the AFL not going on, they are fre to join.
  
  what do you think?

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  • meatgoat replied April 09, 2009

    No,I understand he's the best QB we've had and I think we can still win a championship with him at the helm.That said, I don't like the guy.
    • 5ivefan replied April 09, 2009

      Have you ever went to the bar with him and had a beer talking about things? No? Thought not. So, how can you say you don't like the guy? You don't even know him. There are just some things you don't like about the guy. I'm sure there are some things about you and me people don't like either.
      • meatgoat replied April 09, 2009

        Semantics.OK,fine.
      • Hardcourt replied April 09, 2009

        5ivefan is comletly right. You dont kno him. You just watch him on TV and on other websites. How would you feel in his position that if you make one bad play you get booed. And not a leader? He led them to the playoffs, and then on throughout the playoffs. Also to dislike him for his mom? Dude, are you serious?
  • EazyEagleZ replied April 10, 2009

    This is exactly what they want. 3 and 13 years and 10 td 25 int Qb play. Then we will have something to boo. I also hear that Kotite is looking for a job. We can always bring him back and he can sign Ken Obrien and Brad Goebel again. I think I saw Jeff Kemp the other day. He looks like he is in shape. Better yet let's go get Tim Couch or Akili Smith and sign Ricky Williams! Then we will really be a good team. We should have traded McNabb and all of our picks for Jay Cutler and his 18 INTs. What were the Eagles FO thinking !?!
    • suukbang replied April 10, 2009

      Funny but all valid points.....LOL Rich Kotite!!!! The Dark Years for Eagles football....Hey while your at it bring back Ray Rhodes too!!!LOL
• Wheelman said April 09, 2009

  But, he was so good in those soup commercials. For a few minutes even I wanted to eat soup....For a few minutes.

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• cousind said April 09, 2009

  His mom didn't say that she wanted the eagles to lose with Jeff Garcia, She said that them winning is bitter sweet. Meaning that the win was good but she wished that it was her son that was playing QB. She doesn't have to be a eagles fan her son plays for the eagles she is a fan of him, If he went to play somewhere else then she would be a fan of that team or still her son that plays for that team, Don't you think that your mother would do and say the samething???????

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  • meatgoat replied April 09, 2009

    Garcia hadn't even removed his cleats from his first game before Momma Mcnabb was all over the media telling us how horrible we were for forgetting her son and spouting off about how we all needed to remember who the team's real QB was.
    • cousind replied April 10, 2009

      What? I don't recall her saying that. All I rember her saying is that the victory was bitter sweet.
• I_bleed_green said April 09, 2009

  ungrateful for westbrook? apparently you havent seen or heard the quotes Mcnabb made when Westbrook was holding out for his new contract. Apparently you haven't heard Westbrooks latest quotes regarding Mcnabb. Check out philly.com and you can read them there. He is most definitely not ungrateful for westbrook.

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  • meatgoat replied April 09, 2009

    Maybe so. But I feel like all the talking he does about not having the right tools to get the job done over the span of his career is demeaning to BWest.Without him, I don't know where Mcnabb would be in the ranks of starting QBs.We'd probably have an entirely different offensive philosphy that might not compliment Mcnabb's skills nearly as well.
    • EazyEagleZ replied April 13, 2009

      Some people will never be happy with McNabb no matter what he says or does. He smiles after a play and he is too playful. He does not comment on the contract situation of a player and he is not a leader. He does comment on the contract situation of a player and now he is demeaning the payer? If McNabb had the type of year Westbrook had last year everyone would want to run him out of town. Two years ago everyone said Westbrook was the best player on the team and that team did not get as far as last years team. Let's cut 5 some slack, cause the Eagles have shown over the years that they could do a lot worse at the QB position.
• jackson10 said April 09, 2009

  all of these with exception of #1 are dead wrong, and #1 doesnt even have to do w/ him. he never called out anyone on his offense, he always shows appreciation for westbrook and even players that arent or werent that good like kevin curtis and todd pinkston. he wanted in the TO drama b/c it wasnt his fault at all, yet he ddint ask for it. his sideline antics r hilarious, he is a leader as westbrook recently said. mcnabb is one of the samrtest qb's in the league and everyone will have a stupid or bad play. reid is just a control freak. plus sometimes he doesnt have time to call audibles like in the skins game when lj lined up on the wrong side. he always from day 1 wanted to be a pocket passer. he knew that he would be praised as good great athlete instead of a great qb if all he did was wat vick or cunningham did. when he got hurt he wasnt immobile b/c he gained 40 lbs, it was b/c he was just coming off an acl. all the years prior to last year he was very mobile. this year he was also mobile. so like i sadi, all but #1 r wrong. i guess #6 is more of an opinion but thats about it

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  • meatgoat replied April 09, 2009

    The whole list is my opinion. For example, I think Mcnabb had a responsibility to explain to his Mom that the team was trying to get into the playoffs and the backup QB really didn't need to hear all that crap.And I still think his response to injury has made him change his approach to the game with varying degrees of success.I wonder what effects that has had on the offense as a whole.
    • cousind replied April 10, 2009

      Lets see if brady plays the same way this year after a major injury?
    • jackson10 replied April 10, 2009

      like i said, some is opinion, but most is fact thats just wrong. the only aspect of his game that changed after his injury was he was going to throw the ball up to let his guys make plays like other qb's do. eventually we all saw our wr's arent good enough to do that
• I_bleed_green said April 09, 2009

  also, how much sense does this line make in number 10? "Got hurt,got scared,put on 40lbs of muscle and became immobile.Then said he wanted to prove he's a "pocket passer" despite his greatest asset being his mobility." So you're saying in one sentence that he became immobile and in the next sentence his greatest asset is his mobility?

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  • meatgoat replied April 09, 2009

    I'm summing up the last ten years.He put on the weight because he felt it protected him from injury but it also made him less mobile.Shortly after, Mcnabb began talking about the "incorrect" assesment that he is a scrambling QB. I don't know why he thought that. His single greatest ability is making plays on the run. I will say that the Mcnabb of the past two seasons has been a well balanced one.
• crazyphillyfan said April 09, 2009

  i have a problem with numbers 1,2,3,4,6,and 7. #1- You dont know his mother personnaly so you cant judge her and correct me if im wrong but i dont remember her ever saying "I dont want the team to win with Jeff Garcia" and lastly if you dont like his Mom that isnt a reason to dislike the man. #2- The guy has a right to be candid about it, the FO has been screwing him over for years by giving him the Todd Pinkstons of the world, and he never openly criticized a reciever that they had he just asked for more weapons, they are 2 different things. #3- What do you mean he never shows appreciation for Westbrook??? Dony you listen to the post-game prss conferences? When ever Westbrook makes a contribution he praises him. he says things like "Brian was a key to our success today" or something like that. #4- This is just a poor choice of words on your part. He doesnt "refuse" to run a hurry- up offense he just runs a bad one. But that is more the coaches fault then the Quarterback. #6- Unless you are on the sideline with Mcnabb than youhave no idea what he does on the side lines. thecamera probably shows about 10-20% of what players do on the sidelines. How do you that he isnt looking over plays When the camera is focused on the defense?#7- This kinda goes back to my previous point. Unless your in the locker room with Mcnabb than you have no idea what kind of leader he is. And as far as excuses correct me if im wrong but i have never heard him make an excuse for himself. Its always the fans that support that make the excuses for him. I think that everyone in that locker room looks up to Mcnabb. Didnt you hear westbrook on ESPN go to bat for Mcnabb and say that he DOES need more weapons and that he should get that new deal? So basically what im saying is your list has alot of flaws

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  • meatgoat replied April 09, 2009

    No one forced his Mom to run her mouth to the media.When you make assinine public comments people are allowed to judge.I'm not judging her as a person, just what she said.As I stated above,Mcnabb should have seen this as detrimental to the team, but instead he used it as another oppurtunity to garner sympathy and boo-hooing from his biggest fans.Also, I don't see how you can take the constant belly aching for more WRs as anything other than "my WR corps is bulls*it." While it may be true, it is NOT in the interest of being a good team leader to make this statement over and over and over and over year after year after year.And the sideline stuff,well there must be a concerted effort on the part of every TV network to make him look like an a** because whenever I see other QBs on the sidelines they are usually doing something constructive with their time.
    • crazyphillyfan replied April 09, 2009

      Well what is he supposed to do? comeout and speak out against his Mom just becausesome fans are unhappy about what she said? The comments she made are her own comments not Mcnabbs. And in terms of the weapons, Mcnabbs has done more good for the WRs than bad. Ok so he asked for some more playmakers, but that doesnt mean that he is a bad teammate. Is inviting your Recieving corps out to your camp in Arizona to give them an oppurtunity to make themselves better being a bad teammate? The guy wants to win and everyone knows (including the current WRs) that bringing a big name play maker in will acheive that. Im sure the WRs would be willing to drop a spot in the depth chart to win a super bowl. And I dont know about you but I do see Mcnabb looking at pictures of the defense just asmuch as other QBs and i see other QBs fool around justas much as Mcnabb does on the sidelines. Plus id rather have him cracking jokes with teammates and not studying plays than sitting on the other side of the bench alone not studying plays.
• Zukny1 said April 09, 2009

  number 4 needs to be moved to number 1.. How many times has he drove us down the field with 2 minutes left? I cant think of one time! and dont forget 11. He always blames it on other people, never takes the heat on himself.

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  • crazyphillyfan replied April 09, 2009

    Zunky1 are you serious? When has he ever openly blamed someone else?
    • meatgoat replied April 09, 2009

      Blame is implied ever time he complains about who he has to play with.
• 20dawk4life said April 09, 2009

  i gotta agree with all of the reasons but he is a gr8 QB still. i know ur not hating on him but other people are retards and cant see u still support him but have a problem with his charactere we all do. everyone gets angry at him for the reasons listed. n if i was a WR i would be pissed at DMAC for calling me a bad WR. maybe the WR dont try to get open cause they have no faith in their QB. YO DMAC its called positive reinforcement.

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  • meatgoat replied April 09, 2009

    Right.Bottom line: I don't care who the QB is (unless it's Vick) if he helps us win a superbowl. Mcnabb has some issues worthy of minor criticism on the field but he is still talented and a lot better than the majority of NFL QBs.I think he has some major issues with how he handles off field pressure and he should probably avoid the media all together.
• ItsWhatever said April 09, 2009

  Half of these things aren't true, You can't get 5 to shutup about how great B-West is. McNabb has never publicly said he wanted better receivers either.

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  • meatgoat replied April 09, 2009

    You've got to be kidding about the WRs!! It's all he talks about every off season since T.O. left.
    • ItsWhatever replied April 09, 2009

      He says we need playmakers on all the phases of the team, but has never said anything about WR's... technically.
• trina5 said April 09, 2009

  blaming one man for the faults of the whole team is ludicriss.positive reinforcement my arse,it is called constant nagging of one person! i have said many times that there are some things he could do better,but it is not all his fault,it is like talking to a freaking rock sometimes the more you talk,the more you realize no one is listening!!! go eagles!!!

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  • 20dawk4life replied April 10, 2009

    noby said its all his fault but when reggie brown got here he looked capable of being a #1 WR but after years of hearing McNabb say he wants more playmakers also known as skill position players or WR, TE, n RB the team doesnt look to him for leadership he only gives a little support to BWEST cause if he doesnt he will get looked at as a jack@ss by the entire country i think DMAC is possibly the second best QB in the league ON the field but off he isnt a team leader
    • 20dawk4life replied April 10, 2009

      nobody*
    • trina5 replied April 10, 2009

      i have to disagree ,i am glad you think he is one of the best qb's in the league because he is!! but people always put the blame on him and i mean always!!! just some more than others.i watched starting 11 all year when the season was in and i always when they showcased the eagles,seen him on the sideline trying to rally the troops,so please don't tell me he is not a leader,because he is!!he always compliments his team mates even the defense,i watch all of his press conferences and i hear him give accolades to westbrook,g-lew,r brown,kevin curtis and even l.j. smith and the defense!!! where i work we deal with alot of the public and when the whole staff screws up they only blame one person and that person is me,because i have been there for 16yrs. i am always the scapegoat no matter what happens!!! so i know how he feels!!! so what i am saying just give the man some slack,he can't be the only one to blame and he can't be the only one who gets the accolades that is why it is called a team sport!!! just for once give the man some love and let him know you appreciate him!!!
      • 20dawk4life replied April 10, 2009

        i never put all the teams failures on DMAC but he isnt a team leader the last person he tried to "rally" was TO in the Dallas game after the game at PIT with the sideline bull. i dont know what player ur watching trying "rally the troops" but it was probably DAWK he even went onto the field during a timeout to get the offense going. he never gives respect to g-lew, reggie brown or curtis the best he says is he played good. but he never owns uo to throwing in the ground or over everybodys head. if he hit our wr in stride they can break the big plays look back at the Detroit game or either cowboys game this year. and as for giving respect to the d he needs to because they have carried the team his entire stay in philly when our d isnt top 10 we have a sh*ty year.
• BowlBound said April 09, 2009

  The most important non-statistical thing is that he still gives the Eagles the best chance to win games and that's what it is all about.

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  • ItsWhatever replied April 09, 2009

    And that's all that counts.
  • BenPhranklin replied April 10, 2009

    ................geezes Fn christ! Why the Fk is it that Bowlbound whom despises anything green or Philly can understand the concept that McNabb is the QB who gives the Eagles the best chance at winning but the majority of the god damm Philly fans are too retarded to see this..... IS THE SKY FALLING? Im gonna go break something now
    • BowlBound replied April 10, 2009

      If you have been around long enough, I have always said that McNabb gives the Eagles the best chance to win. Doesn't mean I have to like Philly to have respect for a football player, unlike some on here. Have I ever said anything bad about him? Sure, I have, but only in rebuttal for some boneheaded statement that someone else put out there. I have a lot of respect for him as a football player. He's done a lot in Philly. No, he hasn't brought home a trophy, but it doesn't mean he hasn't given it his best shot and I DO respect that part.
      • BenPhranklin replied April 10, 2009

        it is the truth.... he isn't the best QB ever but he's definitely talented enough to win a few SBs if we can get everything else to click.
• HarryPotter said April 09, 2009

  i disagree about a lot that you said meat, the one that bugs me about him though is #4, i think if he could run a successful 2-minute drill he may already have a ring or 2 already

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  • trina5 replied April 10, 2009

    that is because the coach doesen't practice it,for him to get into the rythym of running a two minute drill ,just ask runyon!!
• enzone said April 09, 2009

  I agree his mom should stay out of his business. (football) I also think he needs to call some of his own plays.
  If he did, I think more fans would consider him a better leader. He is talented, but I think Reid has him handcuffed and has lost some of his desire to be creative.

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• BLEEDGREEN1978 said April 09, 2009

  lol meatgoat

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• eagle77 said April 09, 2009

  AWESOME LIST THIS LIST IS THE PERFECT 10. THIS IS WHY YOU ARE THE #1 BLOGGER.

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• BenPhranklin said April 10, 2009

  PS. McNabb didn't know you could call an audible in NFL games

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• mike35e said April 10, 2009

  This post is useless.

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• mom2a2 said April 10, 2009

  Wow! Not one person called you a Hater!
  4,5,6,and 9- I'm with ya! The rest ...you're just being a...disliker? lol

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• steve01 said April 10, 2009

  Wonder what the new anti mcnabb article will be today? Thanks for summing up the true negadelphian argument....Looking way to much into everything that does not matter...Keep listening to 610 to get your talking points!

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  • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

    What offends me about your comment is that I don't even get 610 where I live.
• Serge4040 said April 10, 2009

  So who would you rather have as the quarterback?

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  • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

    No one we have right now.I am forced to agree that Mcnabb is the best current option.I'm disappointed with Reid's selection of Kolb as the future(?) QB.
• cousind said April 09, 2009

  Another thing, I don't know what ethnic background you are, but me as being a black american, myself and many others tend to use the phrase of black on black crime for many situations, some probably out of context, but that being said when some blacks get mistreated or dissed, or abused by another black person we sometimes say that could be black on bladk crime. (like i said could be out of context but we say it sometimes). The funny thing to me was that more whites were offended by what his dad said then most blacks were, maybe cause we hear and use that term alot more than you think!!!

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  • meatgoat replied April 09, 2009

    It wasn't offensive as a racial remark in and of itself.But that term is generally used to describe societal problems that go way beyond a quarrel between two pro athletes.What "crime" was committed?It was foolish and just plain ignorant to describe the situation that way.
    • Robbo24 replied April 10, 2009

      Meatgoat I feel for you man these are a portion of the Eagles faithful. You, Eagles77, and others are a portion also. I like the way you bring up a provacative post then responding respectfully and eloquent even when derided. I'm learning from you sir. How do you do it and be calm in rebuttal?
      • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

        Because "you're a fa**ot" isn't a very intelligible way to defend a point.Or in broader terms,posting an article is an invite to all opinions and I respect that people took the time to comment even if only to tell me to kill myself or acuse me of fu*king my mother.
• mwaz77 said April 10, 2009

  You're a fool... Your name explains it all meatgoat...

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  • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

    makes more sense than your name.way to share your creativity (or lack thereof).
• Dawks08 said April 10, 2009

  you're a f@ggot McNabb is the man, last time I checked he ADORES westbrook, desean, and just wants some more help CAN YOU BLAME HIM??? the only 6'4 receiver we have is on the bench cus he prob had a bite out of his cheesesteak

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  • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

    Let the record show the six year old bigot voice has been heard.
• Dawks08 said April 10, 2009

  *Reid's cheesesteak

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  • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

    Having to correct your own joke? That's gay.
• Zukny1 said April 10, 2009

  Many qbs would love to be on this team, to get the kind of weapons we have around them.

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• trina5 said April 10, 2009

  what weapons? westbrook,desean jackson and then who?

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• BIRDNDAHOOD said April 10, 2009

  great list mr goat! if i was wr on this i'd feel like i was being thrown under the bus every game! maybe that's why they always seem to step up when there is a different qb in there ecept for kolb! i really hate the stupid michael jackson dance when were winning also! that should be number one!

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• jhurricane said April 10, 2009

  What qb that would be available would be better than McNabb? NOBODY!!!

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  • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

    True.But a lack of options does not spontaneously create greatness.
• Zukny1 said April 10, 2009

  1. Westbrook has been one of the most vesitile players in the game for years! top 5 running back year in, year out. 2. Yes The receiving core is pretty solid, Yes there is no Ocho Stinko or TO on this team, but Desean, K Kurtis, and Avant are very solid compared to some other teams. 3.. The Offensive line has always been one of the best in the league, giving Mcnabb mountains of time to throw. 4. The tight end position even with LJ smith and Celek was still probably top 15 in the league. Yes the Eagles could use better play makers in the TE position, LT, and RB, but the fact of the matter remains, this offense is well built.

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  • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

    Couldn't agree more.Which is why I feel blaming the lack of a superbowl on the WRs is a cop out.
• bigtimehiter9 said April 10, 2009

  meatgoat r u on drugs I already know its bull how say McNabb Neverever shows an appreciation for Westbrook and he never said anything about his wide outs sucking he already knows what type of QB he is and thats a pocket passer who can by time for his WR oh I really dont mind if McNabb is laughing if he makes Mistakes in the game because he is having and trying to win the game at the sametime ands the matter with u dont have faith in westbrook on a 4th down play it was 4th and 2 aganist the giants McNabb had faith Westbrook but westbrook didnt do his Job and thats get the first down i dont care if u hate the man he is not perrfect for love of god a lot people have got to get it through their head that nobody is perfect and dont tell people how to their job if u cant do at that stage

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• bigtimehiter9 said April 10, 2009

  NObody is perfect at what they do thatt man likes to have fun in his job

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• Spotella said April 11, 2009

  # 1 His mom
  
  I like her. She has done nothing wring in supporting her son.
  
  # 2 Too candid about lack of faith in the offense
  
  The wide outs get paid plenty, and maybe they should step up their games a little more often. There is nothing wrong with McNabb telling them so.
  
  # 3 Ungrateful for Westbrook
  
  I think he appreciates and shows his respect for Westbrook often..
  
  # 4 Refuses to run a hurry up offense
  
  I've got to go with you on this on, though I think that Phat Phucking coach should put more practice time into both the "hurry up" O and D.
  
  # 5 Black on Black crime
  
  I've got to agree with you here.
  
  # 6 Sideline behavior
  
  I totally agree here too.
  
  # 7 Concept of leadership
  
  Again, I have to agree with you here.
  
  # 8 The draft
  
  After 10 years, I'm still not sure how I feel about this.
  
  # 9 Dumb plays
  
  I agree with this. I realize Phat Phuck is the coach, but damn DMac, become a man for once and get us the wins. Again, this is going back to his "Lack of Leadership" qualities.
  
  # 10 Doesn't know what kind of QB he wants to be
  
  Agreed, you would think by now he would know.

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  • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

    Thank you,Spot, for the well thought out and comprehensive assessment.
• cowboykilla520 said April 12, 2009

  goat heres what i want u to do find the highest building u can put ur kolb jersey on and jump the he!! off

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  • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

    Whatever am I going to wear to my suicide!!!???!! I don't like Kolb,either!
  • Wheelman replied April 17, 2009

    ....and by doing that, it`ll be one less intelligent Eagles fan that I`ll have to respond to. It`s no fun trying to do that which I`m not capable of, thinking above monotheism.
• I_bleed_green said April 13, 2009

  this is in response to zukny1's ridiculous analysis of this football team: 1.Zukyny says " Westbrook has been one of the most vesitile players in the game for years! top 5 running back year in, year out." my response to this is....you're right, he is a top 5 running back in the league. But a lot of his numbers are always higher due to the fact that we don't have better weapons to utilize OTHER than westbrook....In 2007, i forget the exact stat but Westbrook accounted for over 60 percent of our offense by himself. Is that great? No...u cant win when one man is 60% of your offense. And then in 2008 he was hurt all season and averaged 2 yards a carry in the playoffs. Everyone wants to blame Mcnabb for his big game difficultys but when you average 2 yards per carry you arent going to have much success as an offense when its all placed on Mcnabbs shoulders without star weapons around him when the running game isn't there.
  2) Zukny says " Yes The receiving core is pretty solid, Yes there is no Ocho Stinko or TO on this team, but Desean, K Kurtis, and Avant are very solid compared to some other teams." My response would be ....very solid compared to some other teams? Yes. Very solid compared to other PLAYOFF teams? NO. 3) Zukny says " The Offensive line has always been one of the best in the league, giving Mcnabb mountains of time to throw." This is true, but it goes hand in hand with Mcnabbs ability to avoid the pressure (that helps an offensive line get themselves ranked higher) AND he wouldn't need boat loads of time to throw if his recievers were good enough to beat press coverage and get open sooner. Also, the offensive line is one of the top ranked in the passing game, but usually near the bottom of the league as far as the run game goes. It wasn't only westbrooks fault that we averaged 2 yards per carry in the playoffs..there has to be holes created for him to run through. 4) Zukny says :"The tight end position even with LJ smith and Celek was still probably top 15 in the league. Yes the Eagles could use better play makers in the TE position, LT, and RB, but the fact of the matter remains, this offense is well built." My response to this would be...is your goal really to be top 15 in the league in Tight Ends? Top 15 isnt good enough when your division opponents have some of the best tight ends in the league. Dallas-Witten Skins-Cooley Giants-Boss.....if you're telling me LJ Smith was a good enough weapon at TE then you're just plain ridiculous or blind to the facts. Theres a reason the only teams interested in this guy was the Lions and then the Ravens decided to give him a ONE YEAR deal only because Harbaugh had a previous relationship with him. If we had any other quarterback in the league LJ Smith mightve never caught a ball. You say the offense is well built? It seems well built because Mcnabb does the most he possibly can with what little he has to work with....bring in another quarterback with the same weapons to work with and we're a 6-10 team at best. Do you really think this team would be more successful with someone else behind center? Come on man, use your brain a little

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  • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

    The players execute Andy Reid's offense.Westbrook has excelled at that but Reid wouldn't have changed his passing game philosophies if we didn't have him.He simply would have chosen a back with a similar style a la Lorenzo Booker.What I'm saying is that it's a stretch to say Westbrook's stats are padded by the quality of our wideouts.
  • willardj replied April 17, 2009

    Once again, another fan whose expectations of this team are to acquire all-star quality players at each position...
• EazyEagleZ said April 13, 2009

  LIST: Ten reasons you’re Ten Non-Statistical Things I Don't Like About Mcnabb is bogus.
  
  1)His Mom: Low move to talk about a man’s mom. That is just not cool.
  2) I never heard DMac diss his players, but say the team needs playmakers. The coach agreed and aggressively pursued Moss, and has tried to trade for Fritz and Boldin. The team also signed Curtis, Samuel, traded for Stallworth, and drafted Jackson. I think the team is trying to collect playmakers.
  3)Has supported BWest as he spoke out to get him the contract extension. He did not speak out for T.O., but why should he try to get money for a guy that stabbed him in the back?
  4)I agree somewhat with this position, but this is also a coaching issue. Andy Reid teams have seemed lackadaisical when it comes to running the 2. Minute offense. The also seem to perform poorly in all phases of the game during this time. Examples such as getting kicks blocked, giving up costly sacks, and turnovers, giving up very long feild goals, and questionable scores.
  5)Really dumb statement on McNabb’s part, however; I have heard worse. Remember the Kotite comment on how the rain ruined his chart!?!
  6) This is just an untrue statement. Have you spent an entire game watching him on the sidelines? I would rather he forget about an INT, Fumble, Incompletion, or drop pass and get out there and play. The past has to be in the past. Would you rather he sulk about a mistake and let it affect him for the rest of the game?
  7) DMac is the leader on this team along with (formerly) Dawkins. After the T.O. mess he got this team back together, though it has taken him a long time to do it. I guess you would prefer Cutler type leadership.
  8)Imagine your first day at a new job and the first thing you hear after your introduction is BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
  9)I agree with this one, but again coaching is just as much at fault. You also are forgetting the great plays like the 4 TD game vs Arizona on a broken leg, 4th and 26, and the 17 second play/ bomb to Mitchell to name a few.
  10)He wants to be a passing QB. He knows what he wants to be. His size allows him to shrug off tacklers and allows him to extend plays along with his feet. Considering the fact he owns most of the Eagle organizations major passing records he is a passing QB. By the way mobile QB’s do not win. One could argue Steve Young, but he won because he has the #1 passer rating of all time! Passing is what made him great. Running is what caused him concussions which ended his career.
  

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  • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

    Thank you,these are good points and arguments.I will re-evaluate my take on his sideline actions even if I don't change my mind.
• meatgoat said April 17, 2009

  I'm sorry I wasn't able to respond to you all sooner.I was out looking for a tall building to oblige cowboykilla's request. Funny, I picked up a copy of some Philly sports magazine.Didn't recognize the writers and it was definitely a class B publication but it contained an article that addresses a lot of the issues I pointed out about Mcnabb. It also contained quotes from Hugh Douglas and Jeremiah Trotter about Mcnabb throwing the defense under the bus for the loss to the Cardinals last year. Guess they'll be joining me in the search for a new team to support since they clearly can't be Eagles fans either.

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• Zukny1 said April 17, 2009

  hahaha Well thanks to Meatgoat I saw this huge bashing from I_bleed_green who is obviusly an idiot when it comes to being a football fan. i Bleed Green, you seriously just threw the whole team under the bus! Telling us that our offensive linemen are only pro-bowlers because of Mcnabb is probably the funniest thing I ever heard. Saying that Westbrook is only good because he gets the ball so much? The reason he gets the ball so much, is because he is sooo friggen good. And in 2007 his YPC were very nice! Face it, Every team in the League has to plan around this guy. Just as every team has to plan around LT or AP, B West is just as big of a threat as those guys, just in a little bit different way!

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  • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

    Yeah,his above comment really diminishes Westbrook's accomplishments.Perhaps IBG feels Westbrook is to blame for our average WR corps.Dam, if only he wasn't so darn good maybe we'd go get Boldin!
• Zukny1 said April 17, 2009

  .... let me start this over ....... 1.. Bwest is amazing, and Every team has to plan their game plan around him. 2. Our receivers are Play off material, remember the Patriots - they won 3 superbowls with Deion Branch, who by the way, will never be as good as Kevin Kurtis or Desean Jax. 4 Offensive line this upcoming year will have 3 pro-bowl caliper type players- and no its not because of mcnabb idiot! 5. Chad Lewis was on this team until 2003 making Pro-bowls, He was replaced with L.J SMITH, who came out of college a friggen Beast. LJ even played really good for this team a few years ago.> Im sorry he got worse, because of Injuries, and his anger with not earning enough money.

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• Zukny1 said April 17, 2009

  pretend all you want that Desean Jackson isnt good, or Kevin Kurtis sucks.. I know one thing, Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes are not ANY better! and the steelers just won a superbowl..... Sometimes the crap that spews out of your mouth is pathetic. Pick a different team to like if you hate everyone so bad.

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• Zukny1 said April 17, 2009

  He gets underneath my skin Meatgoat!

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  • meatgoat replied April 17, 2009

    I hear ya.