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Why (And How) The Cubs Should Trade For Curtis Granderson

Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:39:01 -0500

by Duane Burleson - AP In addition to a good bat, Curtis Granderson would give the Cubs plus defense in CF. View full size photo » I'm not sure I really have to convince anyone here of the premise of the headline of this article; numerous people have already posted here about how useful Curtis Granderson would be in the Cubs' outfield, and several traditional media articles in both Chicago and Detroit have di...

Harden & Johnson not returning to the Cubs

Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:29:00 -0500

I don't believe either player will end up with the Mets because they are injury risks but I still think they would solid additions to the club. Rich Harden and Reed Johnson don't appear in the Cubs plan for next year mainly due to the injuries they sustained during the 2009 season.Rich Harden when on the field is one of the best pitchers in the league, the problem is Harden always seemed to be injured. It's true he's a risk but I feel the reward is worth it, what I would do is...

Grabow and Fox File for Free Agency

Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:13:21 -0500

According to a report from Cubs.com, John Grabow was the last of the Cubs possible free agents to file for free agency on Monday. Grabow joined Reed Johnson, Rich Harden, Kevin Gregg and Chad Fox as the five Cubs on the 2009 roster to file for free agency. The Cubs are expected to re-sign John Grabow this week before he hits the market on Friday. A report over the weekend indicated the Cubs faxed John Grabow's agent an offer sheet last Wednesday.

Elias Rankings for Cubs Free Agents

Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:13:49 -0500

The official Elias rankings are out and they don't differ too much from the reverse-engineered list that MLB Trade Rumors was putting out (courtesy of Eddie Bajek).

Type A - John Grabow, Kevin Gregg

Type B - Rich Harden

Reed Johnson didn't make the cut and even if offered arbitration, the Cubs would not get any draft picks if he signed with another team. A Type A free agent - if offered arbitration by his previous team - nets a first round pick and a supplemental pick if he signs with another club. A Type B free agents nets a supplemental pick. The Cubs weren't going to offer Gregg arbitration as is, since the chances of a team signing him and giving up a draft pick are between zilch and none. Grabow may get offered arbitration because the Cubs just want him back. Rich Harden should be offered arbitration because he's one of the two most talented pitchers available on the market and even with his arm issues, a one year deal is pretty low risk even at $10Mish a year. Plus Ted Lilly is broken.

In terms of some players the Cubs might have some interest in and who might get offered arbitration.

Type A - Chone Figgins, Billy Wagner, Johnny Damon

Type B - Mark DeRosa, Mike Cameron, Randy Johnson, Randy Winn

Cubs Rumor Round-up: DeRosa, Harden and Johnson

Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:30:59 -0500

- Buried in this Stltoday.com artcile is this nugget:

DeRosa, coming off wrist surgery, figures to field an offer from the Chicago Cubs, at the least.

Seems like idle speculation than anything legit, but at least the Wrigley-ites would be cheering for the right team if it did happen. (Hat tip to Bleacher Nation for the find)

- Paul Sullivan says the Cubs are ready to let Rich Harden and Reed Johnson test free agency.

But Harden's injury-plagued history makes a multiyear deal unlikely, and Johnson may have to take a salary cut to stay.

Well if this is indeed the case, offering Rich Harden becomes even a bigger no-brainer. Johnson has never been more than a good short-side platoon player that shouldn't be too difficult to replace. Jayson Stark supposedly suggested Marlon Byrd as an option.

- Sammy Sosa takes this vampire a craze a step too far.

The official line was that he going through a rejuvenation process for his skin.

Weekend Update ... Talkin' Cubs Rumors

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:27:43 -0500

The first two days of the off-season have seen quite a bit of movement across the league ... except for on the North Side of Chicago. The Cubs completed their organizational meetings on Friday in Arizona and other than Reed Johnson and Rich Harden declaring free agency, not much out of the Cubs' camp. Which is not necessarily a bad thing. Jim Hendry has little payroll flexibility and will likely rely on making trades to improve (or fix) the big league team for next season. It is only t...

Aaaaand Here We Go…

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:13:24 -0500

The cap to one helluva busy day, MLB transaction-wise is, at least for Cub fans, the kickoff of the Cubs offseason, as Reed Johnson and Rich Harden filed for free agency: The Cubs’ Reed Johnson and Rich Harden didn’t waste any time. Johnson and Harden were among the 79 Major League players who filed for free agency on Thursday, the first day they were eligible to do so. So, there’s that. Harden is a Type B FA, meaning of the Cubs offer him arbitration (they won’...

Harden and Johnson File for Free Agency

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:33:37 -0500

According to a report on Cubs.com, Rich Harden and Reed Johnson were among the 79 players to file for free agency on Thursday. The Cubs have exclusive negotiating rights until November 20 to work out new contracts with all of their potential free agents ... Reed Johnson, Rich Harden, John Grabow, Kevin Gregg and Chad Fox.

From the Wire ... Fuld Recalled

Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:30:50 -0500

According to a report from the Tribune, Sam Fuld accompanied the Cubs to Miami on Thursday and will take Reed Johnson's roster spot on Friday. The Cubs are expected to option Mitch Atkins to Triple-A to make room for Fuld. John Grabow will be in uniform on Friday and available out of the pen for Lou Piniella. Grabow will wear number 43, he asked for 34 but told it was not available.

Game 93 Recap: Cubs 10, Phillies 5

Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:57:46 -0500

The Phillies Don't Go to 11.

W - Zambrano, (7-4), "working" from home and watching afternoon Cubs games, ending someone else's winning streak. L - Moyer, (9-7), making the same reference to the same movie that everyone else always makes.
S - Gregg, (19)
Box Score, Photos Things to Take from This Game

1. A Balanced Attack Seven different Cubs had RBI today, without benefit of a home run. Bradley, Soriano and Ramirez all had two-hit games, Theriot had both 3 hits and stolen bases. Perhaps most interesting, Bradley's five ABs were with a runner in scoring position; he went 2-4 with a walk and an RBI. None of the hits were rockets, but I'll take it.

2. Well-pitched early...
Moyer had the Cubs fooled for the first three innings, and Z pitched well through the first five.

3. ... tense moments late. The Phillies left the bases loaded in both the seventh and the eighth. Marshall faced on batter, Dobbs, who singled in two runs that got charged to Z. But Guzman then escaped from the inning, and eventually turned the game over to Gregg who escaped from the eighth and pitched an uneventful ninth for an impressive save. The Cubs also finally did some damage to the Philly relievers, getting to both Durbin and Lidge, allowing our relievers some breathing room.

The 5-2 Roadtrip details, below.

Game Recap Inning 1 - Top

After waiting for Moyer to get his shoes tied, a first-pitch 81 mph fastball for the strike. Next pitch fouled off, 0-2 to Reed Johnson. Eventually K's swinging over and in front of a change-up.
0-1 to Theriot, and next pitch lays down a perfect surprise bunt up the third base line. Feliz makes the throw, but there was no chance.
1-2 count to Lee, as Moyer's getting ahead of everyone. Watches a slider, maybe, over the outside corner for strike three.
Radar gun seems not to be picking up Moyer's breaking and off-speed pitches, as they're too slow. It's similarly tough for me to distinguish his changeups from his breaking pitches, as they're all just exceptionally slow.
Theriot steals second easily, and a wild throw into center sends Theriot to third. Nice "manufacturing" going on by Theriot this inning. Now, if someone would help him out...
Ramirez coaxes a walk.
2-0 count to Bradley, he chops one off the plate and toward the third-base side of the mound. Moyer comes over to snag it, throws to first. Inning over. Very early results on LouPa's Extreme Hitter Makeover project not looking so encouraging.

Inning 1 - Bottom

Strike one to Rollins, Z working quickly, as usual. three balls from there, and a fourth. Walks Rollins.
Victorino lines sharply to left-center, but Johnson goes back and easily makes the catch.
Z throwing over to first a bunch to check on Rollins.
Full count to Utley. Rollins runs, and Utley strikes out on a high fastball, with Rollins thrown out by a mile at second - doesn't bother sliding, just half-heartedly tries to spin away from Theriot's tag.

Inning 2 - Top

called strike, then jammed foul bloop for an 0-2 count to Soriano. Next pitch a high "fast"ball, Soriano with a soft popup to Howard.
Baker lofts one down the right field line, a fan in the seats that jut out near the playing field tries to catch it bare-handed, and it pops away from him. Fan gets booed.
Baker then grounds out to Feliz.
Hill also grounds to Feliz, making a nice play ranging to his left.

Inning 2 - Bottom

Howard flies to straight-away right.
Werth walks.
Called strike one to Dobbs, in for Ibanez today. Eventually lines a single right past Z's glove-side into center. Len points out that Werth, on par with the alert Phillies baserunning we've seen this series, was eyeing Reed Johnson for any hint of a chance to take an extra base. Nope, has to hold at second.
Feliz squibs one to Lee for a long-toss 3-1 putout at first. Z inexplicably fires across the diamond to third, trying to catch Werth rounding too far around the bag. Werth easily gets back. Dumb, dumb throw by Z.
Len and Bob cheer old-school Moyer, who warms up in the on-deck circle by swinging a pair of bats.
Z busts Bako's bat, a little bloop out to Theriot who fights off the sun and makes the catch.

Inning 3 - Top

Z pops a looping hit foul down the first base line, and Howard makes a nice (if lumbering) over-the shoulder catch for the out.
Johnson walks. Then, with maybe a two-step lead at first, takes off for second, looking in to home plate all the way. Theriot takes, and Johnson is out by a mile. Busted hit-and-run, I assume.
Theriot with a slow chop out to Rollins. Nearly beats it out, but inning over.

Inning 3 - Bottom

Moyer quickly K's.
Rollins swings at first-pitch fastball, flies right to Soriano.
Victorino singles through the right-side hole.
Utley K's looking.

Inning 4 - Top

Lee singles to left, Ramirez singles right back up the middle, and quickly 2 on, no outs for Bradley.
Bradley does a nice job going with the pitch, hitting it into right. Three singles to load the bases for Soriano.
0-2 to Soriano
Soriano floats one into shallow center for a single. Station-to-station baseball, but 4 singles = one run. 1-0 Cubs
Baker lines one just to Rollins' left, Victorino runs over and makes a sliding stop to keep it from getting to wall. Throw in to second to get Baker, but the ball gets away and rolls through the infield, allowing Soriano to score, and Baker going to third. 4-0 Cubs
Hill grounds out to Rollins
as does Z. Not good ABs with runner at third and no outs
Johnson K's looking. Cubs fans gnash teeth in spite of a four-run outburst.

Inning 4 - Bottom

Len tells us it's not Moyer, it's the radar gun just not working. Howard bounces one to what ought to be about straight-away second baseman's position. Theriot, maybe 6 steps deep in the outfield, takes a step to his left, grabs it and throws him out.
Werth grounds to the real second-baseman, Baker.
Dobbs rolls to Theriot. Quick inning.

Inning 5 - Top

Theriot sneaks a grounder past Rollins. It's Moyer's 4000th hit allowed, and nobody cares.
Moyer wants a called strike two on Lee, a changeup off the outside corner, doesn't get it. Wanders around the infield for awhile in annoyance. Or senility. Take your pick.
Lee with a high fly ball out to left-center.
Theriot with another good jump, steals second uncontested.
Ramirez walks
Bradley is up for the third time in a row with RISP. He singles a grounder thorugh the left-side hole, and Theriot scores easily on Dobbs throw toward home. 5-0 Cubs
Soriano pops to Howard on the infield.
Baker grounds into a 5-4 force.

Inning 5 - Bottom

Feliz with a big chopper off the plate, down the third base line. Z gets there, makes an unneeded throw to first. Feliz safe.
and Bako with a soft liner over Baker into right. Feliz to second.
John Mayberry Jr. hits for Moyer. Inside-outs a soft bloop hit into right field, loading the bases for Rollins.
Rollins flies to medium center. In an odd development, Feliz tags and breaks for home, and Johnson throws toward third base. Feliz, however, decides to return to third, presumably thinking Reed was throwing to home and just intended to bluff. Fans boo Feliz
Victorino grounds to Lee, can't quite turn it quickly enough for a 3-6-3. Feliz scores on the force out. 5-1 Cubs.
Len can't stop referencing Tom Hanks movies today.
full count to Utley, k's swinging, losing the bat on the swing. Rough couple of games for Utley, nice work escaping the inning with only one run allowed.

Inning 6 - Top

Clay Condrew in to pitch.
Hill hits a fly into deep left-center, Victorino does a nice job running it down.
Z grounds slowly out to Rollins, even more slowly jogs down to first.
Johnson lines out to Werth.

Inning 6 - Bottom

Howard hits a sinking liner to Baker, who is playing in the shift at a point too deep to throw out Howard once concluding he needed to pull up and wait for the hop.
Werth pulls one into the hole, Theriot gets there nicely, makes a Jeter-style jump throw to second, but it's wide of the bag and rolls into right field. Howard to third, Werth to second. Brenly is pretty peeved at Bradley for not backing up the throw on the play.
Brenly still at it. He's really been going after the Cubs in the last several games for lazy fundamentals.
Z K's Dobbs looking at a fastball on the outside corner. Nice pitch.
Feliz singles to center, Johnson throws in to try to get the second runner, Werth, who is sort of cruising in. Werth makes an awkward leaning-back-and-to-the-right evasion to get around Hill, standing up. Two-run single, 5-3 Cubs
Bako K's on a swinging foul-tip. The ball hit in the dirt before skipping up into Hill's glove, meaning it should be a foul ball and not a strike out, and Manuel comes out to argue the point. Bako still out, Manuel ejected.
Stairs hits for Condrey, K's looking.

Inning 7 - Top

Durbin in to pitch
Theriot walks on a full count.
Nearly picked off at first. Actually, Howard tagged the dirt, not figuring just how late Theriot would be in getting back.
Full count to Lee, walks.
Ramirez lines a shot in the right-center gap, scoring both Theriot and Lee. A very encouraging stroke from A-ram. 7-3 Cubs.
Bradley with yet another AB with RISP today, this time from the left side. 3-1 count. Walks on the next pitch, low and away.
Soriano hits a lined shot just past Feliz's left. Bases loaded.
Fontenot to hit for Baker
Scott Eyre in to pitch.
Fox now in to hit for Fontenot.
Sharp liner, right to Dobbs, and Ramirez easily scores on the sac. fly. 8-3 Cubs
full count to Hill, lines sharply to Feliz, who tries and fails to double off Bradley at second.
Z stays in to hit. 3-1 count. Big rip at a fastball, misses, 3-2. Likewise on the next pitch, for the K.

Inning 7 - Bottom

Rollins grounds to Lee, unassisted
Fox appears to be out of the game, so Hill has to not get hurt, to save us from seeing Randy Wells catch.
Victorino singles into right.
Utley hits a sinking liner into right, Bradley makes a nice, tough (if awkward) sliding basket catch
Howard walks.
Dobbs pulls a single into right, Bradley charges hard on the ball, keeping Victorino at third. Throw to the plate was offline, but doesn't matter. Bases loaded.
Marshall in to relieve Z.
Decent pitch by Marshall, down, a bit over the plate, and Dobbs serves it into left field, scoring two runs. 8-5 Cubs. LouPa has used his only lefty reliever, against a team full of powerful left-handed bats, to pitch to one batter. Hmm. Runners 1 and 3
Guzman in to pitch to Feliz.
Feliz lines to Soriano, just short of the warning track. Phew.

Inning 8 - Top

Eyre still in for the 8th. Goes 3-0 to Johnson. Called strike, then lines out to Utley.
Theriot lines one up the middle, off of Utley's glove as he dives for it.
Theriot steals his third base of the day, this time on a good throw from Bako, but better jump by Theriot.
Lee walks.
Ramirez serves one into right-center, Werth takes a weird path, but gets to the deep fly ball. Theriot was running, but gets back in time.
Bradley up for the fifth consecutive time with RISP. Ball one, then a broken-bat grounder to Rollins to end the inning.

Inning 8 - Bottom

Bako rolls one right to Ramirez, who seems to be scooping it up and throwing it before it's fully in his glove. Error.
Len just now points out that all 11 philly hits are singles
Ibanez in to hit for Eyre, rolls out to Theriot. To weakly hit to get the lead runner.
Rollins bounces to Lee, unassisted, Bako to third.
Victorino walks on four pitches, bringing up Utley representing the tying run. Fun, Fun.
Fukudome in for Bradley, Gregg in for Guzman in the double switch.
Strike one to Utley, but from there to 3-1 count. And four in a row, a walk. Loaded, Howard up as the go-ahead run.
Howard reaches for an outside fastball, pulls it to Lee, unassisted. Another inning concluded with the bases loaded.

Inning 9 - Top

Lidge in for Eyre.
Soriano Ks swinging
At some point, Blanco came in to play second. He's rewarded for his surruptitious substitution by getting hit by a pitch in the left elbow. Only Hoffpauir left on the bench, so Blanco better rub some dirt on it.
and Hill quickly walks, bringing up Fukudome.
Fukudome swings at the first pitch, singling into right. Werth makes a very good throw to the plate, with Blanco holding at third.
Reed Johnson quickly down 0-2.
Johnson bloops one into right, just in front of Werth, who decoys the runners into thinking he'll get there. Blanco just does manage to reverse directions and score, with Fukudome barely beating the throw at second. 9-5 Cubs
Full count to Theriot, K's on a slider.
Game has slowed down drastically from the first four innings or so. Len points out the Cubs have 8 walks today.
3-1 to Lee. Walks, 10-5 Cubs
Ryan Madson in for Lidge, BRuntlett in for Howard at 1st in the double-switch.
Ramirez pops to Utley

Inning 9 - Bottom

Werth flies out to Fukudome, on a very rare swing at a first pitch.
0-2 on Dobbs, fastball misses outside for 1-2. Swings through a high fastball for the strikeout.
Feliz lofts an easy fly to Soriano, ending the game.

Parachat Recap Inning 1

Alone in parachat for the first few batters, I discuss my online financial account numbers and passwords,my social security number, my medical history and love life, and my real opinions about abortion, war, racism and drugs. Shocking, shocking opinions.
big_lowitzki joins, and chad.
Chad sprays something all over parachat. big-L diplomatically calls it "optimism." If by "optimism" you mean rage-fueled despair.

Inning 2

I "boo" Chad for his lackadaisical parachat effort.
big_l reminds us that mullets always lose.
- except for Chad's.
What do you imagine other TCR'ers look like?
- I try not to.
Z's dumb throw to third.

Inning 3

Is Brian the Same Brian?
- Brian thinks so.
The busted hit-and-run caught-stealing.
Jersey Fried Chicken.

Inning 4

Bradley's AB
Moyer's record against the Cubs
Chad whines about how our power hitters can't drive in runs
- Cheering as Cubs drive in four runs.
Real Neal joins, after having grabbed his.... comp.
The LaRoche trade

Inning 5

Theriot's throws make Real Neal's rotator cuff hurt.
big_l must have one bad fantasy team
- I'm amused that I abbreviate big_lowitzki as big_l, which realy looks like a big I or a lowercase l.
Rollins' weak season, comparing batted-ball numbers to prior seasons. interesting stuff.
Free (Felix) Pie.
The sadism behind Spilled Ice Cream Humor.
Good, non-"moran" Cubs ABs today.
A long and weighty colloquium on the moral and strategic merits of running out infield flies, from Real Neal. Many thoughtful interrogatives followed from the audience.
Double-standards in Bradley's benching compared to Soriano?
Feliz's base-running.

Inning 6

Cubs' historical success against premium hitters.
How much is Weiters worth in a keeper fantasy league?
What would it take to get Wilson or Sanchez from the Pirates?
The Theriot throw to second and lack of Bradley back-up
Could we get Escobar from the Braves?
- not a chance.
an umpire's plea for help

Inning 7

Evaluating Bonds' career against the cubs. Interesting stuff from big_l, Real Neal. Then devolves into trying to explain OPS to Chad.
The laser-beam wielding Questec robot that eventually will Destroy All Humans.
Was Bradley supposed to be a key or complementary piece to this year's offense?
What would be a good second half from Bradley?
More on the LaRoche trade
What is Danish Cheese?
LouPa's use of Marshall in relief

Inning 8

Hooray, it's Ted Lilly Fan Club!
Scott Eyre jokes.
More on Bradley's year.
Getting very nervous about this game.
Rob exhorts Gregg to get out of this inning for ****'s sake.
- Gregg must be concerned about the sake of ****

Inning 9

Real Neal works to prove my previously quarter-assed theory, upgrading it to half-assed.
LaRoche trade, revisited, again.

Cubs move to a modest 3-5 in my most recent round of recapped games.

How Fast is Reed Johnson?

Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:56:20 -0500

When you're a young guy, hair that grows in places other than your head is pretty important.
I was a freshman in football this one time when a guy named Paul Holland completely ran me over in a tackling drill.
One of the coaches screams at me, "SOUERS, YOU AIN'T GOT NO HAIR ON YOUR ASS!"
I could tell right away that hair meant huevos, balls, intestinal fortitude.

In college I decided to grow sideburns.
Why not?
Grew 'em for about 3 weeks.
Wellll, on one side I had to painstakingly and artfully blend hair from my head to mix with all of maybe 14 actual sideburn hairs.
And all that blending was for naught because only 5 actual sideburn hairs grew on the other side.
Bald patch between the head hair and the 5 sideburn hairs - not good.
I cannot grow a mustache or a beard, I have no hair on my chest, and my leg hair kinda petered out in 6th grade.
Reed Johnson seems to be able to grow beards at will and overnight. I am SO jealous.
But you never know - I may still be maturing.

Well, that hopefully took your mind off of Geovany Soto's "mild" oblique strain and the sloppy, rotten, foul-tasting 1-4 loss to the Braves yesterday.
Kevin Hart came up to take Dempster's place in the rotation.
He did okay, really.
Buncha walks, but okay.
It's these damned wimpy Cub bats.
They have no hair.
And here come the Cardinals...
A little perspective - the Phillies lead the NL with 432 runs scored, St. Louis is 6th with 377, and our favorite team is 15th with 337.
I'm sure you're aware that that's 15th out of 16.
So...not so good.
I'd put a little hair tonic on those bats, boys.
Do that thing where everybody on the team grows a beard or something.
You are going to need to score some runs in these next 4 games.
And if you do, you will have a chance to knock these guys down a peg.
And even though I don't, as a Cub fan I would at least feel like I had some hair on my ass.

Tim Souers is the illustrator and author of Cubby Blue and appreciates the opportunity to guest blog here at The Cub Reporter.
http://www.cubby-blue.com

This illustration is in the current issue of VINE LINE.

A Kosuke Fukudome Sandwich

Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:08:08 -0500

Nothing like getting squished/jumped in between Alfonso Soriano and Reed Johnson after a victory. Cubs win!What a welcome sight for Cubs fans.Milton Bradley getting injured for the 8 millionth time in his career...not so much.(photo: AP)

Ryan Theriot is in no way whatsoever to blame for the result of the Cubs and Brewers game tonight

Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:20:06 -0500

Similar to last night, the Cubs pissed away scoring opportunities most of the night. Derrek Lee and Milton Bradley continue to struggle at the plate and despite the team’s 3/4 hitters struggling as they are, the Cubs are still averaging 5.2 runs per game. Considering the struggles of 2 of the team’s best hitters, that’s impressive. It’s only 5 games and if those 2 continue to struggle the runs per game will come down, but we know both of them will hit. Milton Bra...

Fukudome is a dirty word

Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:48:20 -0500

by DCScrap, on 205th magazine Cubs fans would probably agree right about now, but bad baseball is not why Fukudome is considered a bad word. Elgin High School sophomore had to remove her Kosuke Fukudome jersey and wear a gym T-shirt to class Wednesday because of a misunderstanding about how to pronounce the All-Star right-fielder's last name. "Someone stopped me in the hall and asked me what the back of my jersey said," Jill said. She replied that it was the name of Cubs player,...

Cubs lead back to 5 games

Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:21:42 -0500

Zambrano was OK today. Didn't have very good stuff, but got through 5 innings before Lou took him out to give him a shortened outing (less than 90 pitches). Cubs were up 5-2 and Samardzija pitched the next couple innings very well. Then Cotts came in and gave up a couple baserunners and Gaudin gave up a game tying home run. 2 outs into the 9th, Soto walks and Ward is called on to pinch hit for Gaudin. Pirates go to the lefty and Lou goes to Reed Johnson. Right after Brenly said he ...