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Milwaukee Bucks Get Lackluster Grade for Stunning 4-Year Myles Turner Deal, National Media Continues Agenda Against Franchise
Milwaukee Bucks: Revisiting the Damian Lillard Trade As Star PG's Time in Milwaukee Unceremoniously Ends After Just 2 Seasons 2 Apr 27, 2025; Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA; Indiana Pacers center Myles Turner (33) takes a shot against Milwaukee Bucks guard Damian Lillard (0) and forward Kyle Kuzma (18) in the first quarter during game four of first round for the 2024 NBA Playoffs at Fiserv Forum. Mandatory Credit: Benny Sieu-Imagn Images

The Milwaukee Bucks’ Myles Turner signing is probably the biggest non-trade transaction this summer. Adding Turner required waiving Damian Lillard to clear cap space, a bitter but necessary pill to swallow. There is no doubt this move makes the team better in the short term. Yet, after the initial wave of shock, ESPN is back beleaguering the Bucks, whatever they do.

Imagine if the Lakers or Warriors made a move of the same magnitude – ESPN would be all over them, talking up their title chances. This isn’t to say those rosters aren’t better (are they?) but simply that those big-market teams are treated much differently. ESPN’s latest take on the Turner move, authored by widely respected NBA expert Kevin Pelton, only reinforces the network-wide stance against the franchise.

Myles Turner Add Not a Needle-Mover for Milwaukee Bucks, Top Writer Says

In his analysis, which is thorough and overall a very nice piece of work, Pelton gives the signing a B-minus. He notes that:

If the Bucks are as serious about contending as this move suggests, it’s imperative that they use their remaining draft assets (an unprotected 2032 first-round pick, plus a swap in 2031 or re-swapping picks that either the New Orleans Pelicans or Portland Trail Blazers can swap) to upgrade from Kuzma. Cam Johnson, perhaps the cleanest replacement, is already off the board after a trade agreed to Monday sent him to the Denver Nuggets.

Completely fair. What’s worth debating is the paragraph that follows:

Failing that, while I credit Milwaukee for creativity and boldness of this move, I’m not sure the Bucks are much closer to championship contention. Waiving Lillard takes away the upside of him potentially returning from an Achilles rupture in the playoffs to play at a high level. Turner, the third option at best in the Pacers’ offense, is now the only player besides Antetokounmpo on the roster who averaged even 15 points last season.

For reference, Turner averaged 15.6 points, 6.5 rebounds and 2.0 blocks last season, shooting 48.1% from the field and 39.6% on threes. Except for three-point percentage, those numbers are slightly down from his averages across the two seasons prior. While essential to Indiana’s roster, he did not perform especially well in the Finals.

Okay, so maybe the Bucks aren’t title faves, but they’re not better either? Dame isn’t going to see the court most of the season and who knows what he will look like upon return. Is that the upside the Bucks should settle for? With all due to respect to Pelton’s expertise and authority, concluding that healthy Turner doesn’t move the needle over injured Dame might be overthinking it.

To be sure, there is plenty not to like about the Turner signing. Waive-and-stretching Lillard means the Bucks will take a dead cap hit each of the next five seasons worth around $22 million. Sending out Pat Connaughton to finish the cap-clearing job cost them two valuable second-round picks. The move involves risk. It further mortgages the franchise future. That’s what you do when you have a generational superstar like Giannis.

So, no, signing Turner wasn’t some unequivocal, homerun transaction. It’s also unfair to brand it as a negative or ignore the positive impact it has on Milwaukee’s chances next season. Counting on Dame Time to save the team while stumbling to the play-in in his absence doesn’t seem like a recipe for postseason success.

Healthy Turner or Hurt Dame

A full season of Turner’s two-way production replaces a player who would not play most of the year, turns 35 in two weeks, and may never be the same after tearing his Achilles. It’s not as though Turner is a bona fide star, but he is an improvement over Dame on the sidelines. It’s reasonable to wager than Turner could far be useful even when Lillard comes back, wherever he ultimately signs, having to shake off rust and vulnerable to further injuries.

Kevin Durant, the most successful instance of Achilles recovery in league history, has himself suffered from increased injury stints. Health issues are prevalent enough already for players in their mid-to-late 30’s.

Moreover, ESPN has for months reported on a potential Giannis Antetokounmpo trade request. Those rumors have died down, but the network continues to engage them. Those same months of constant gossip, culminating years’ open speculation, went hand-in-hand with the insistence that the Bucks don’t have the roster to compete next season. And maybe – well, probably – they still don’t have a clear title contender. Let’s be real. But they have added talent where none was before and the East is wide open due to the additional Achilles’ misfortunes of Boston’s Jayson Tatum and the Pacers’ Tyrese Haliburton.

Sure the Bucks need to follow up their aggression at some point – they also needn’t be rash – but isn’t signing Turner exactly the type of all-in maneuver they have been urged to make to have “any chance” of retaining Giannis?

The front office urgently needs to fill out the backcourt, fair enough, but good luck finding a better frontcourt than Giannis, Turner, and Bobby Portis.


Milwaukee Bucks Get Lackluster Grade for Stunning 4-Year Myles Turner Deal, National Media Continues Agenda Against Franchise 2 Nov 13, 2023; Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA; Milwaukee Bucks forward Bobby Portis (9) reacts with forward Giannis Antetokounmpo (34) after scoring a basket in the fourth quarter against the Chicago Bulls at Fiserv Forum. Mandatory Credit: Benny Sieu-USA TODAY Sports

In Case of Catastrophe, Turner’s Salary Would Be Asset – Lillard Would Be Gone

Here’s another thing: Lillard’s dead cap hit isn’t tradeable salary, a perfectly just observation. It isn’t desirable to carry around that type of hold years into the future. It’s a problem.

But in observing those things, critics should also consider that Lillard’s contract was set to expire in summer 2027 and that it’s unlikely the Bucks would retain him. Could they trade him before then? Maybe at the ’26-27 midseason deadline. Maybe. His gargantuan expiring salary would make a reasonable trade extremely difficult.

Most likely scenario: Lillard walks for nothing. Having him off the books would be a clear advantage, but still – note walks for nothing. Instead, they’ve essentially turned him into a very tradeable salary, four years and $107 million, even if things don’t work and Giannis asks out. Turner has a player option for the final season.


Milwaukee Bucks Get Lackluster Grade for Stunning 4-Year Myles Turner Deal, National Media Continues Agenda Against Franchise 3 Apr 29, 2025; Indianapolis, Indiana, USA; Milwaukee Bucks forward Giannis Antetokounmpo (34) shoots the ball while Indiana Pacers center Myles Turner (33) defends during game five of the first round for the 2024 NBA Playoffs at Gainbridge Fieldhouse. Mandatory Credit: Trevor Ruszkowski-Imagn Images

If they have to tears things down, the Bucks would recoup the draft capital they sacrificed and then some, via picks or NBA talent. And if they’re rebuilding, guess what? Dame’s dead money isn’t important anyway.

Of course, the goal is to avoid that kind of scenario altogether. It isn’t clear it will succeed, but that’s what the Turner is trying to do, immediately improving the roster for at least 2025-26 if not the next season as well, depending on whether Lillard returns to form upon. The great Kobe Bryant, who was 35 when he tore his own Achilles, certainly didn’t.

The Bucks don’t have a perfect scenario available to them, but denying that they’ve made the roster better is dubious at best. In principle, it seems fairest to grade the move based on current outlook, considering a problematic future without giving undue weight to pessimistic outcomes. For now, the Bucks deserve at worst a solid B, as high as an A-minus. Split the difference and call it a B-plus.

This article first appeared on WI Sports Heroics and was syndicated with permission.

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