"He Hate Me" was what defensive back Rod Smart put on his Las Vegas XFL game jersey, much to the delight of the original league's few fans.
From the sound of it, Bears offensive coordinator Declan Doyle might have felt the same way about his current boss, head coach Ben Johnson.
In a 33rd Team podcast interview with Ari Meirov, Doyle recalled his interview for Lions tight ends coach with Johnson before the 2022 season when the Bears coach had just become the offensive coordinator for Detroit, and revealed he felt the two didn't quit connect—not by a long shot.
"Coach Randle El, who is now our assistant head coach, was in there and they kind of put me through this process with everybody in there," told Meirov. "I felt like it went well, like any time you interview, you know what it feels like to feel like you did a good job.
Imagine questioning Ben Johnson
— Bear Misterio (@BearMisterio) August 12, 2025
"But the entire time Ben is sitting at the head of the table and he was grilling me. Ben is incredibly detailed, he's a clear communicator but everything that I put up there it was why: 'Why do you do that? What do you like it against?' "
His conclusion: "And so I finished the interview and I was like, I think it went well and I think I could get this job, but I think that guy hates me. You know, I don't think that guy likes me very much."
Maybe Johnson didn't actually hate Doyle, but he failed to get the job. What Doyle did should be a lesson to everyone seeking a job who didn't get it.
DJ Moore on why he trusts Ben Johnson:
— Dave (@dave_bfr) August 11, 2025
"The way his attitude is. I mean, he can get mad and then start smiling at the same time. It’s kind of creepy, because you don’t know if he’s serious or if he’s joking. So you have to take everything he says serious and go from there." pic.twitter.com/IHN4c3Dkxm
"But you know, I don't get that job and I was able to kind of maintain, like, stay in touch with Ben," Doyle said. "I think that after the interview we were able to kind of talk and you know we saw things kind of similarly as far as how you run an offense and, you know, some of the schematic things and the details and all of that. And that was really where the connection was made and we just stayed in touch after that."
Ben Johnson looks so comfortable by himself than coordinator job pic.twitter.com/q5sTCBdvwi
— Jαƈƙʂσɳ Tҽҽɳ (@teen_jackson) August 10, 2025
Eventually, he is now Johnson's first offensive play caller, although not in a play-calling capacity. He'll need to gain even greater favor for that.
The entire situation is a good lesson for the players Johnson is coaching, too, particularly Caleb Williams. The two seem at times, in practice, to be at odds a bit but Johnson always projects full support of his QB when talking about him.
"Is this Ben Johnson protecting Caleb? Is this Ben Johnson protecting himself?"@colincowherd and @getnickwright discuss Caleb Williams sitting out the Bears preseason opener pic.twitter.com/fB6OHVjNcX
— Herd w/Colin Cowherd (@TheHerd) August 12, 2025
While some players have described Johnson almost crazy to the point of obsession with details, it doesn't necessarily mean he hates everything about what his players are doing while he's pointing out flaws.
If they keep working at it, Johnson might come around. Or he might already be behind them and it only seems like "he hate you."
Bears OC Declan Doyle saying he thought Ben Johnson did not like him when they first met in 2022.
— Bearsszn (@bearssznn) August 12, 2025
Can’t blame him for thinking that. I’m sure Ben’s intensity can do that sometimes
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