Falling Star: Post Combine Top 5 Ranking

Posted February 25, 2013

Now that the NFL Combine is coming to a close, I decided to re-vamp my top 5 prospects for the Eagles. Unfortunately, one of my favorite players in the entire draft (DT Star Lotualelei) has fallen out of the top 5 due to an unknown heart condition and what effect it might have on his career (or life for that matter). While he was my second overall choice in this April's draft, now the priorities have shifted a bit. Currently here is my top 5:

1. OT Luke Joeckel: His draft status is unchanged after this weekends drills. While the Eagles probably won't have a shot at him now that the Chiefs seem to be leaning in acquiring him at the #1 overall pick, he's still our top rated player.

2. G Chance Womack: Thought by many to be the top player in the entire draft, I too am on the bandwagon. While we could still opt for a defensive lineman at this spot (and many think this is high for a guard to be drafted) Chip Kelly has made it clear that the Eagles won't be "conventional" in terms of NFL "thinking" and will select the best player available.

3. DT Shariff Floyd: His stock has rocketed up boards over the weekend, and I think he could be very productive at either the NT or 3-4 five technique (DE). While not the player that a healthy Star Lotualelei would be, he's very similar in terms of value and could bolster the defensive line immediately.

4. OT Eric Fisher: He's the second rated OT next to Luke Joeckel and could prove to be the pick due to Jason Peters health concerns. Even though he's similar in stature and ability to Joeckel, I think the Eagles go with the highest potential if they stay at the #4 spot and take Womack.

5. OLB/DE Dion Jordan: Obviously the Eagles are familiar with all former Orgeon players. But this kid is special in terms of build (6'6) speed (4.53 in the 40 yard dash was the fasted of all DL at the combine) and even though he will require surgery to fix his shoulder, he has a frame that can carry an additional 15-20 lbs and not lose any speed (he's currently 248lbs). Freakish athlete that models his game after Javon Kearse (but can cover WR's in the slot). Yes, he is, indeed a freak.

Stay tuned!

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  • Any of these players seem like they would be a good pick at 4 although they could have a shot at Jordan or Warmack even if they decided to trade back and get an additional pick...the only problem is that it seems more and more like the top 5 in this years draft may not be as desirable as years' past. Just the Eagles luck.
  • I'm all for trading back as long as it's still in the top 10. Browns, Jets, Bills, and Cardinals will be the most likely candidates with QB Geno Smith on the board. And I'd be happy with Jordan, Womack and possibly Fisher in the top 10. And if the health concerns are of no concern, we still could get DT Star Lotualelei with the pick because he should probably slip a bit due to the heart condition. Netting us an additional 3rd round pick (and possible 6th) in the process. :)

    CB Dee Milliner could also be a pick if we move back. Even though I think OL/DL/OLB is more of a pressing need. Still a good player and wouldn't be disappointed (just not at the #4 spot)
  • The Eagles have made DT a priority now in this draft. They may only need to tract one, but they are going to have to get at least one with Patterson, Jenkins, and most likely Landri all being gone. If Nnamdi refuses the pay cut he will be cut. New defensive sets, new defensive tackles and the possibility of an entirely new secondary. So much change in so little time will be an enormous challenge for Davis.
  • I agree. From a depth standpoint we just lost two proven players. not necessarily valuable by 2012 standards but two nfl starters. Im not hip on losing Patterson mainly because he is a homegrown veteran presence. It wasnt a suprise to lose one but both makes me wonder. Too much emphasis on cost cutting and not enough on winning. The front office needs to remind people why they should attend Eagles games and spend money. Tell me why should I?
  • Since Jenkins has been an Eagle they haven't won. Paterson has been on the decline for sometime now. I don't mind the movement, because I know they must rebuild the young talent, but that's why a move to keep Vick makes so little sense.
  • I just stated this in a comment to hollywood minutes ago. People on WIP seem to be confused because of the mixed message the Eagles are now sending. Vick and Asomugha don't make sense to a team rebuilding. If they were playing at a high level you could understand keeping them but anyone thinking that they have been (regardless of the reasons) are just fooling themselves.
  • They are creating more holes to have to draft people. They must think they can get players to fill in like rookie free agents. It is going to be a long season.
  • Maybe they are planning on drafting geno. These are signs that make me think they are tossing out this season on defense knowing Geno will be getting lessons on offense. Its strange.
  • If Geno is there guy then It makes a little more sense. They aren't planning on winning a lot, but they want someone else out there taking the hits (Vick) until they get some lineman around their future.
  • It sure appears that way. maybe they draft Geno or EJ and are going to emphasize an offensive line . Sort of would make sense and if thats the plan I wouldnt be terribly opposed to it.
  • With them grabbing up so many QB candidates now I wonder if they want to draft another.
  • It's no secret that the Eagles already needed help at the DT/NT position. Shedding players like Jenkins and Patterson was almost a no brainer due to their salary and lack of productivity. The person who gets lost in the mix is DT Antonio Dixon and what he could possibly provide as a true NT in a 3-4 base scheme. Also, DT Cedric Thorton was performing better as the year went on so it will be interesting to see what the kid can do with more reps.

    This draft is loaded with talent at the OL/DL position, so fortunately for the Eagles, we are in a good draft to find an immediate impact player with our 1st and possibly second round pick. Free agency will also play a fairly large role in what we do during the draft. At this point, it's almost a forgone conclusion that the Eagles will take an OL/DL with our first pick. The question is, which side of the ball has more talent in this years draft?

    Side note:

    Looks like Star Lotulelei is going to have a second opinion regarding the heart condition this week. Hopefully he clears medically and it's a minor condition due to dehydration (as some have speculated). If he's able to be cleared medically, I still think he's the top rated DT and could be a devastating combo with Fletcher Cox.
  • I think star is the likely pick in which case the DT position will solid without Patterson and Jenkins. But as usual not alot of room for error. Injury to either blows that plan up. They should get a FA NT for depth.
  • I'm sure depth will be added. And I'm still all for the Eagles bringing in a veteran DT who is versed in both the 3-4 and 4-3 scheme. While Richard Seymour isn't a spring chicken, he still could provide good value as a rotational player and help the young kids along.
  • I have no problem throwing him ina rotation but does he qualify. EZ thinks anyone over 30 should not be considered unless they are of Tom Brady calibur.
  • Stop gap mediocre guys won't be missed. Neither will overpaid guys who fail to get the job done. You compared Jenkins to Brady. You think they deserve to be treated equally.
  • I just look at it from a value standpoint. I dont care about them keeping Jenkins or Patterson. Forget the dollars for a second all I care about is the talent level going up or down. Had they got rid of Thorton or Landri I would say thats a no impact move but you are getting rid of proven starters. Whos replacing them? I dont care if they part ways with alot of these scrubs but there are quite a few guys I would send packing before these two.
  • If they move to 3-4 Jenkins was the only player useable. The Eagles must feel they can get similar production from Thorton (who isn't that bad actually) and a rookie. They got nothing from Patterson last season. Right now Thorton a year older is better than Patterson, and Cox is already better than Jenkins.
  • That kills your argument, hollywood. You can't just state "forget the dollars for a second" when there is a salary cap! It just can't happen. High priced players are salary cap casualties every year even when they are playing well because teams need to make room...at least in the Eagles case that isn't the case so far.
  • His entire argument was spawned from money. He was complaining about the Eagles once again being cheap. He's complaining about how the Eagles are haggling players who frankly didn't perform over money. Nobody will be with him on that. Those guys didn't live up to their contracts. Jenkins and Patterson were casualties because they don't fit the system and young guys can bring similar to the table for less.
  • He contradicts himself, knows it yet continues to do it. He wants them to spend all the cap money but when they have to cut players because of increasing contracts (he's always for increasing players salaries and keeping the higher priced vets) he whines about that...you just can't have it both ways.
  • No, its called quality depth. Nothing Ive seen from Thorton, Dixon or Landri lkeads me to believe they are nothing more than backup role players.
  • You keep ignoring the fact that if the Eagles did what you wanted them to do they would have been tens of millions over the cap. Quality depth is great but cuts had to be made somewhere. This is the year that a new coach comes in and gets rid of most of what he doesn't want on the roster...next year there will be more cuts when he actually sees these guys play...it's the way of the NFL!
  • I read today on NFL.com that Patterson is talking to the Lions. If he ends up signing there he would be a backup since they already have Suh and Fairley. Fairley has struggled and been injured but did have 5.5 sacks last year in 13 games. I doubt that Patterson would be added to this duo with hopes that he would supplant one of them...he would be a solid backup and rotational player and an emergency starter in case of injury (or suspension in Suh's case. LOL).
  • I'm still hoping for Warmack in the the 1st. He has natural leverage at only 6'2", and he kept his HANDS low in most relevant drills. Leverage PLUS good hand placement?! I'm in love!
  • I think that Milliner with his 40 time will make the Eagles seriously consider drafting him and they should. Corner is an absolute need for this team especially if they are going to cut Nnamdi (not that he's much of a corner these days). If the Eagles are going to play a pressure defense they are going to need corners who can man up cover. If the Eagles draft Dee, sign Smith, and one of these safeties like William Moore the Eagles will significantly improve their secondary and defense as a whole. I would rather they draft Dee than make a play for Revis, his contract, and attitude.
  • Here's my dream scenario for this year's draft.

    Round 1: Millner
    Round 2: Elam, Reid or Vaccaro

    I'm seeing that Vaccaro may go in the late 1st round. Even if they have to do some wheeling and dealing to get back into the 1st round to grab him, I say go for it.
  • Im thinking everytime I read blogs in here and Im not trying to start a war, But if Chip Kelly stopped for a visit? he wouldnt care what any of us said, why??? thats Chip , if you know anything about Oregon Football and the growing list of uniforms ?? from black/silver?? and what is Oregons colors?? last time I checked??? green and yellow, the point is Chip Kelly didnt care why?? he had games to play, that was for the fans, and ratings??? he didnt care about those either.
    just a thought

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