Did He Just Compare Cullen Jenkins To Tom Brady?

Posted February 26, 2013
Hollywood my man I know you love you some veterans despite how good or bad they are. As long as they have some tenure you are all for it. It's is a refreshing twist to the businessman. A boss who overpays his staff despite their production. I honestly don't know how anyone can stay in business with that type of mentality, but it's refreshing to see as opposed to these corporate Wall Street suck jobs who try to grab every penny they can from the common man and cry broke at the same time. With that being the case Hollywood are you truly trying to say that Mike Patterson and Cullen Jenkins deserve to be treated the same as multiple Super Bowl winning and appearing Tom Brady? Since Cullen Jenkins signed a 5 year contract with the Eagles the team has a sub .500 record. Mike Patterson hasn't been an elite player his entire time in Philly and has been injured and average the past few seasons. These guys are stop gap players who are overpaid and can be replaced by younger versions via the draft who will cost less money. Now of course there are some veteran players who are over 30 the Eagles have given extensions to in the past, but the Eagles wisely never gave those players more than 3 years. Tre Thomas, Jon Runyan, Donovan McNabb, and Brian Dawkins come to mind just off the top of my head. Since Roseman has taken over he has given long term extensions and signed several players over 30 to longterm deals and frankly none of them have turned out well. Vick, Jenkins, Babin, Nnamdi, Celek, Cole, and Herremans, are guys who were over 30 or nearing 30 when the Eagles went against the Banner style and it didn't pay off. Many of those guys have now been forced to restructure or have simply been cut. The team has a losing record since making these extensions. None of the players have been the leaders they were made out to be. Heck there are stories that Nnamdi ate lunch in his car to avoid people! It's clear to me the Eagles have to get back to what they did before. Drafting an elite class quarterback, drafting young talented players, developing a great young line, and signing away other teams young players (and their own) to extensions preferably under market value. Keep them hungry for the big payday only to find it never coming here in Philly.
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  • I think you need a mix of youth and veteran players. When I scan the Eagle roster I see very little in the way of homegrown veterans. Players on their second or third contract. That continuity plays an important role in winning superbowls. You cant just buy it in free agency. Is Patterson a world beater? No but he is a veteran that will step up ina big game . A player that knows how to play at the playoff level. Every player has a value equivalent to his talent. Patterson will get his money barring injury and it will probably be close to what he is scheduled to get from the Eagles. Jenkins will get paid so somewhere in the league a coach or personnel guy will value them accordingly. But my cap point is and its a fact that the Eagles over the span of years of the salary cap spend significantly less than average out of the remaining NFL teams. That means simply put they are saving and pocketing money. Period. So you can throw the age factors and the players ability around anyway you want but the fact remains the Eagles are cheap.
  • Your point doesn't equate to your problem. Jenkins was an Eagle for two seasons. Patterson was on his 2nd contract. NEITHER OF THEM ARE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CHANCES OF THE EAGLES WINNING A SUPER BOWL. Let me ask you a question. Do you pay full price for a service that you don't use or one that doesn't work as well as it should?
  • I want to see on paper that his claims that the Eagles are always at the bottom of the league in spending are correct. The Eagles may go into every season with money to spend but they usually spend it on players whose contracts are about to run out that they want to keep. Have they had money to carry over most years, yes but isn't that smart spending?...why go into every season having to dump salaries and not being able to help yourself in the coming off season? I think a lot of the claims that the Eagles are ALWAYS at the bottom in spending started when the Eagles went cheap on free agent wide receivers in Reid's early days. Ray Didinger said on WIP a few months ago that he thinks there is nothing to the claims that the Eagles are always at the bottom in spending and also stated you need to look at where they are at the end of the season and not at the start. Look at the big free agents that the Eagles have signed. They have brought in the top free agent (or at least one of the top) in at least 4 of the 14 years Reid was here...Runyan got the biggest paid out to a lineman when he was originally signed...TO and Kearse...Samuel...Asomugha and the rest of that crew. The other Andrews got a huge deal and they went out and brought in the top fullback at that time in Weaver. Look at what most of the fans on yardbarker are calling for this year...one top free agent and fill ins...the Eagles do that more times that not.
  • Just recently the Buccaneers were so far under the cap they had to overpay guys to get within standards. He cried when the Eagles didn't use money to go after free agents. It didn't work so now he's crying about them trying to fix the problem. Dude just loves to whine.
  • Go to Eaglecap.com
  • Really, hollywood? You're suggesting I go to the site that I told you to go to when you were whining about the Eagles being 23 million under last year? The site I told you to go to and take a look at where they would against next year's cap (which is now this year)? I know where they are this year (under but mainly because of last year's carry over)...what I would like to see is where the Eagles average out over Lurie's ownership. I would guess it isn't nearly as bad as you think.
  • The Eagles will be 40 million under the cap if they let go of Nhamdi & DRC. They were 23 million last year. Some teams fall within two million between years. Explain how they spend as much as a team thats below the cap in 2012 by 2 million and below the cap by two million in 2013 and the Eagles could be net 63 million below the cap between the two years. Do the math and explain how they are spending like other top franchises.
  • 2010 Eagles spent 131 Million against the cap. That placed them 11th in the league and slightly above the Patriots. The Redskins and Cowboys spent the most proving spending money doesn't make a team better. 2011 The Eagles were only a little over 2 million under the cap. The Chiefs were 32 million under, the Bucs were 29 million under, and in fact the Eagles were 5th most in spending. Soo much for that they never spend stance hey Hollywood? 2012 the Eagles were 5th in the most cap money available. The Ravens spent the most, but it should be noted the other two teams ( the Saints and Raiders) were two of the worst in football. It should also be noted that with the Ravens being so close to the cap they are going to have to work very hard to keep their players. I sense some cuts and restructures coming don't you?
  • Good work, Eazy but you know hollywood will just ignore this and keep whining. The Eagles spend money...they just don't always put it in the right place. Banner may have taken advantage of young up and coming players early but the players didn't have to sign those deals if they didn't want to (and this was another reason the Eagles got labeled cheap). At least the Eagles never had any cap casualties because they had to manuever to get under the cap...I hope this was just a rare occurence because of the 2011 free agency run and isn't going to be a common theme with Roseman.
  • I know. Facts are wasted on the stupid.
  • [The 49ers do not plan to use the franchise tag, Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee reports citing two league sources, which means Goldson, a Pro Bowl and All-Pro safety, will get to test his worth on the open market. You'll recall that "Good Cop" Jim Harbaugh said that Goldson "deserved" a long-term contract.

    At the combine, general manager Trent Baalke said, "You can't pay everybody, and you certainly can't pay everybody if you're overpaying others."]

    BTW this guy is a 28 year old all pro safety for the the NFC Champions!
  • Why not? He compared Kolb to Brady and then tried to claim that one or both us did. We know that hollywood's ignorance on how the cap works and what teams have to do to stay below that amount and also what a new coaching staff will do on a 4-12 team that has been floundering for years is nothing but him using everything he can to get his shots in at the FO.
  • It's Hollywood crying for the sake of crying. Changing his stance thinking that helps his crying argument more. Nobody should be crying for the pockets of any of these guys. Of course the true goal is to rip the organization as a whole. There is nothing new to the Hollywood game.
  • I'm pretty sure he's saying Vick n asomo r better cause they don't deserve a pay cut but Brady took one.
  • Some players know what it takes to help make or keep their teams competitive and on target to possibly make a Super Bowl run (they also get that those contracts aren't fully guaranteed)...hats off to Brady. I wonder if he had to discuss his paycut with Gisele?
  • From what I heard his extension is all guaranteed money. So the cap hit is less but in the end he gets more or something like that.
  • I think they are all overpaid so you wont find me shedding any tears for either of them. They stunk last year. I believe contracts should be result oriented anyway. But if my memory serves me correctly you want the contracts to be enforced if a player is reaching goals and wants more but hypocritically you want the player to surrender if he isnt meeting the goals. Isnt that what they call a one way mofo.
  • The description you are trying rip him for being hypocritical is exactly the same as the one you support. With that being the case you are the one who wrote the article complaining about money.
  • I do think players shouldn't hold out and should play out their contracts...I'm not going to lie. I have also stated in the past that some players do deserve contract extensions when outplaying their contracts but holding out (especially with the Eagles) isn't the way to get it done. What I don't like is when the players sit back and whine that they are only making 3-4 million a year while forgetting about that 10 million dollar signing bonus they got 3 years ago that is still affecting the cap and IS a huge part of that contract. I also don't like hearing the Lito Sheppards of the world start regretting a 7 year deal in his second to third year (while being a pain in the ass) especially when he's missed 6-8 games out of that year and a half he's been playing under his new contract.

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