Originally written on nfl.com  |  Last updated 7/25/13

I’m proud of Mike for throwing up the weights during the off season. He’s certainly proud of himself too. "Four pounds, four pounds of pure muscle," he said, "So, it's a credit to myself."




Now it’s good for Mike to be in shape there’s no doubt about that, but for a guy who’s already faster than our starting running back it doesn’t seem as if physical improvement should have been his focal point this offseason. Instead of hitting the gym hard Mike should have hit the books hard. Even prior to this season I don’t think Mike Vick’s physical toughness was ever in question it was his durability, decision-making skills, ball security, and accuracy that were. The funny thing is all of his real issues could be improved by simply studying more. Chip Kelly’s offense will require the quarterback to be able to make pre-snap reads which means Mike needs to understand what defenses will try to do to him prior to the snap he is going to need to be able to make quick decisions with the football as well as do a better job of protecting the ball. Mike could have spent those extra hours absorbing the playbook instead of building a beach body. If Mike is still holding onto the ball too long, still having difficulty reading defenses, still having difficulties with learning the offense he’s still going to find himself being hit by 300 pound men who run as fast as cars move. 4 pounds of muscle aren’t going to make those hits feel that much lighter. He’s tried helmets, flak jackets, building muscle before, and now again. Perhaps he should have just tried to learn his playbook and study some defenses. That way he wouldn’t have worry about gaining weight in order to take hits. The ball would already be gone. One last thing Mike should have considered doing was walking across the street and visited the Phillies players and coaches. Maybe they could have taught him how to slide. I commend Mike for putting in some hard work this offseason, but he would have “done a better job.” Had he focused on more headwork.


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  • Exactly right. Those 4 pounds won't go far enough if he is still holding onto the ball too long and putting the shoulder down instead of stepping out of bounds or sliding. The good thing is that with a new coach in town I doubt Vick does those things too many times before he gets benched. He could be riding pine before he gets injured if he's taking sacks and waiting for plays to develop instead of getting the ball out of his hands. Like I told Hollywood a while ago, Kelly owes Mike Vick nothing.
  • Welcome back green. I am a little concerned about Mike making the team and ultimately causing problems. I feel if Chip is going to make Vick the starter then he just has to be the starter. Otherwise he's going to become a distraction. We know he wont stay healthy so if he wins the starting job we know he's going to be out for multiple games. It's going to mean a guy like Dixon who could help isn't going to make the roster unless Kelly keeps 4 quarterbacks. If Foles beats Vick out then the best move would be to cut Mike. It would be hard for Foles to maintain the job with Vick on the sidelines. It would never be his team in the eyes of some of the players knowing their friend is sitting there. If Vick doesn't win the job he is going to be cut. At least he should be.
  • LOL. I didn't really go anywhere, Eazy. Just getting bored with this site somewhat and feel the need to ignore the impulse to type from time to time. I actually haven't even checked on what was being typed for the last couple days. Don't let flip tell you it's because of you either...it has nothing to do with you. If anything it may have more to do with how a couple barkers on here have no issues with pushing sensitive subjects just to try and get their points across but honestly, I just ask myself from time to time whether I want to spend the next three years debating with a couple grown men who act like children insisting something is the way they want it to be and not how it truly is. What does it give me but wasted time when I look at the reality of the situation? I do enjoy some of my time on here and won't walk away for good but am not going to let this site consume so much of my time. It's not healthy...just look at flip.

    As for your outlook on Vick...I get what you are stating and the only way I see the Eagles letting Vick walk is if he asks to be let go. I don't think it would sit well with the veterans if Kelly cut Vick if he lost the position to Foles and was named the number 2. If you listen to Kelly he says that if his starter isn't getting the job done why wouldn't he go to the number 2? How would that look if he moved on from the guy he committed to for at least one year whether he was the starter or the backup? The vets will want to know that if Foles falters they have what they deem as a capable backup. Next year is a whole different story. Stating that if the Eagles did decide to move on from Vick I wouldn't lose any sleep over it...I may actually sleep a little better.
  • I get where you're coming from on Vick. Maybe Kelly views it that way as well, but my view is in the eyes of certain veterans even the slightest mistake by Foles will have them calling for Vick. We all know the media will play it up. The first two interception loss by Foles will have every member of the media throwing a mic in Vick's face. Ultimately it will become a major distraction and could derail the season.
  • This season may be more about getting the track and train ready for the trip than getting it moving at full speed so I ask, why worry about derailing? You are right about the media and Vick supporters will also be calling for Vick the first time Foles throws a bad ball but if it isn't Vick it will be Barkley. It's part of not having a franchise QB and until one of the Eagles QBs step up or they draft a guy it's bound to happen.
  • For the most part I would agree with you, but consider the fact Barkley doesn't command the locker room respect that Vick does it would take more than just one bad game for the players to start calling for a change. I think Dixon has a better chance to be number two if Foles wins the job than Barkley. It would seem that Dixon still has some practice squad eligibility which means they could stash him if necessary. It would be good to have a guy around the defense could use as an RG3 clone to prepare for the Redskins.
  • Players yes, fans and media no. The media does play on drama and what will fire up the masses and if any QB struggles the media will ask the questions that the fans will be all too happy to answer.
  • I think the media would stir the pot certainly, but I don't believe Kelly is going to make any changes based off media questions. Now if Foles continues to have bad games and he starts to lose the team I think he would pull the trigger.
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  • As long as he will continue to struggle reading defenses, as long as he will continue to hold the ball too long, as long and as he will continue to take a hit verses slide all of his preventive tactics (flak jackets, helmets, padding, muscle, and so on) wont work. His style of play is the reason why he can't stay healthy. Furthermore when a coach actually tries to teach him he quickly reverts back to being himself as he's stated in the past.
  • Did anyone catch Ike Reese talking yesterday on WIP about what he thought happened with Mike Vick over the last two years? He said that he thought when Vick took over as the starter he started getting too comfortable and too confident again and stopped doing the little things he learned and worked on in 2010 when he took that big step up. Here is a man that spends plenty of time around the Eagles who simply gets it. No excuses about the O-line (which both QBs had to play behind)...he kept it all about Vick and what he believes he saw. If what Reese said is true and Vick stopped working hard to keep more in line with that nice 8-10 game run in 2010 (and after he got that HUGE contract) he certainly isn't who I would want leading my team into this new Eagle era. I sure hope Foles has enough game in him to take hold of the reins and not give them up.
  • Very good points. Ike is someone who knows Mike Vick having played with him in Atlanta. I've heard Ike be very critical of Vick's prep work in Atlanta basically saying it was nothing compared to how hard McNabb worked. If Ike feels Mike isn't working as hard as he could then I feel there could be something to that.

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