Found December 18, 2012 on
World Series Dreaming:
Among other reports swimming around the interwebs lately, Brett at Bleacher Nation writes a blurb about the Tigers possibly floating both Rick Porcello and Drew Smyly on the trade market:
Danny Knobler says the Cubs and Tigers did speak about Rick Porcello, now that he’s expendable, but the two sides didn’t find a fit. The Tigers are alternatively listeningon lefty Drew Smyly, who might be a more attractive target for the Cubs. No word on whether they’ve reached out on Smyly, specifically, or what the cost would be. I’m thinking the answer would be “steep,” given that he’s just 23, under control through 2018, made it to the big leagues in just his second professional season, and pitched effectively during that stint.
After a spirited discussion with New Guy (TM) — and by the way, if you’re running a blog and you don’t know everything, don’t be afraid to enlist a knowledgeable and friendly New Guy (TM) to help a brother out — we thought out the following scenarios…
To begin, we kind of agreed in principle that Porcello sucks. He can eat a few innings and he isn’t absolutely terrible, but he doesn’t strike out enough guys, he gets hammered quite a bit and while he would be switching from a crappy division in the AL to a crappy division in the NL (which is no longer as crappy by the way) the numbers are unlikely to improve very much. Which is why we elected to focus on Drew Smyly.
As Brett noted, and as we discussed, Smyly is younger (turns 24 next season), is under team control for at least the next six years, and has solid upside, which New Guy (TM) thinks gives him a ceiling of a number two pitcher. There have been some mega-trades involving pitchers just this offseason where elite prospects changed hands. We floated the idea of using Matt Garza straight up, but the problem is that Garza is recovering from a wacky forearm injury, and despite being cleared for baseball activity, would likely not bring a good haul until spring training at the earliest if he’s simply lights out in his few starts (most GMs not named Jim Hendry won’t weight spring training production that heavily though) and more likely at midseason when he’s got a couple months and about 15 starts under his belt. If Garza had been healthy last July he might have been traded straight up for Smyly, but probably not now. I doubt Detroit is that desperate.
So we turn to prospects. John Sickels has a list of the Cubs’ top prospects entering 2013 that we can use as a guide. Being that Smyly is young, good enough at baseball that the sky is still the limit, and cheap and cost controlled for six more seasons, it’s going to take a big haul. MLB rules prevent recent draftees from being traded within a year of draft date so guys like Albert Almora are out. Javier Baez is the top prospect and with such a bare farm system you have to imagine the Cubs want to hold on to him, so he’s out too.
Looking at Detroit’s needs, perhaps they need some outfield help since ALCS MVP (trololol) Delmon Young is gone and they may not want to have a platoon at both corners to flank Austin Jackson. Jhonny Peralta (I hate that spelling) is old and lacks range at shortstop so maybe they need a shortstop, especially if Miguel Cabrera continues to man the hot corner. I don’t know enough about Detroit’s system to make any sweeping judgments, but from an outsider’s point of view, aside from more pitching (which everyone needs), those seem to be Detroit’s pressing needs.
We ended up suggesting a straight-up swap of any combination of Brett Jackson, Junior Lake, Dillon Maples and Dan Vogelbach for Smyly. It seems hefty, but considering the kind of pitcher Drew Smyly might turn out to be, it might be a good starter package. Hell, the Tigers may throw a C-level prospect in with the gift basket because the Cubs were so nice.
Obviously we don’t know how much Theo and Jed value Drew Smyly, nor do we know how Tigers management view their own pitching situation, but we feel that this possibility needs to at least be discussed. A phone call never hurt anyone, and after throwing all that money at Anibal Sanchez, maybe Detroit needs a laugh.
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I received this e-mail from Hitman:
What do you think about the possibility of bringing in Drew Smyly of the Tigers? I’ve already touched up previously in a few comments about his great breaking stuff and if you haven’t seen a highlight video of his from the 2012 season on Youtube, watch it. You’ll be impressed in what you see. Alderson was talking about bringing in another...
While it’s been reported that the Detroit Tigers are
expected to trade starting pitcher Rick Porcello following the signing of
Anibal Sanchez, the club is also “taking calls” on left-hander Drew Smyly,
reports Danny Knobler of CBS Sports.
Tigers are taking calls on Smyly as well as Porcello. Not committed to trading either one, but with tons of interest, I'm guessing...
The Detroit Tigers might move Rick Porcello before the 2013 season begins, but the Pittsburgh Pirates will have to sweeten the pot if they want to add the young right-hander.
From Rob Biertempfel of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:
#Pirates are interested in Porcello, but Tigers don’t want straight-up swap for Hanrahan
— Rob Biertempfel (@BiertempfelTrib) December 19, 2012
DETROIT -- The Tigers released pitcher Adam Wilk on Wednesday, after his contract was sold by the organization to a team in the Korean Baseball League.
Additionally, the team outrighted the contract of pitcher Matt Hoffman to Triple-A Toledo.
Wilk, 25, lost all three of his starts with the Tigers during the 2012 season, compiling an 8.18 ERA. He was 7-11 with a 2.77 ERA in 24 starts...
The Detroit Tigers have released left-hander Adam Wilk and sent left-hander Matt Hoffman outright to Triple-A Toledo.
The Tigers say they let Wilk go after selling his contract to a team from the Korean Baseball League. Wilk went 0-3 with an 8.18 ERA in three starts for the Tigers in 2012, spending most of the season in the minors. He turned 25 earlier this month.
In the latest podcast, the staff discusses the status of both Rick Porcello and Drew Smyly, why the Tigers should consider trading one or the other, but also why it's not a foregone conclusion that one should be moved. Plus, what is the story with Brennan Boesch, what can the Tigers expect from Alex Avila in 2013, and can the Tigers really believe Bruce Rondon will be the closer this year?
DETROIT (AP) -- The Detroit Tigers have agreed to a five-year contract with right-handed pitcher Anibal Sanchez. Sanchez will be at a news conference Monday afternoon. The team didn't disclose financial terms, but a person familiar with it told The Associated Press last week on condition of anonymity that the deal is worth 80 million. Sanchez helped Detroit reach the World...
The Tigers officially announced the re-signing of starting pitcher Anibal Sanchez to a five-year, $80 million dollar contract with a club option for 2018.
“Anibal pitched tremendously for us down the stretch and during the post-season,” Tigers president and GM Dave Dombrowski said. “He strengthens our starting rotation and we are pleased to have him back with the Tigers organization...
It was a clean sweep for the Detroit Tigers’ Miguel Cabrera Tuesday night as the 2012 Triple Crown winner took home a Major Award in all three of the categories he was nominated for including MLB Player of the Year, Best Moment of the Year and Athlete of the Year. Cabrera’s counterpart during the 2012 [...]
According to CBS Sports’ Danny Knobler, the Tigers have receivedalmost a dozenphone calls regarding starter Rick Porcello after the team officially announced the Anibal Sanchez signing.
Next up for the Tigers: Trading Rick Porcello. I’m told they had almost a dozen calls within 3 hours of news of Sanchez deal.
— DKnobler (@DKnobler) December 17, 2012
That addition of Sanchez...
The Detroit Tigers wish their fans Happy Holidays and send thanks for a great season.
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DETROIT -- Anibal Sanchezs agent, Gene Mato, said his client left money on the table during the winter meetings from a club he wouldn't specify he only said it wasn't the Chicago Cubs because Sanchez wasnt comfortable with that team.
Mato claims Sanchez could have made more than he ended up getting from the Tigers, who announced an 80 million, five-year contract with a...
DETROIT -- Anibal Sanchezs agent, Gene Mato, said his client left money on the table during the winter meetings from a club he would not specify -- only to say it wasn't the Chicago Cubs -- because Sanchez wasnt comfortable with that team.
Mato claims Sanchez couldve made more than he ended up getting from the Tigers, who announced the 80 million, five-year contract with a club...
2012 saw Miguel Cabrera become the first Triple Crown winner in 45 years. I wonder if Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski has considered trading Cabrera. Surely after putting up numbers like that he could definitely get some good prospects.
We had a pitcher once who seemed to be slipping. He was approaching 33, his best years behind him. Over his last two seasons, his ERA rose 26%, his strikeouts...