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  jabbadahutt said July 13, 2008

  Every year for the last 5 years, Brett Farve does this to the Packers and his fans. He wants to be begged and flooded with attention before every season starts or he will quit. During the 2005 season when the Packers went 4-12, he kept blaming the other players and kept saying how bad they were. The Packers front office has had to wait for Farve's indecisiveness for several seasons now on what to do for their picks in the draft. If Farve quits, the Packers need to draft a back-up QB for Rodgers. So Farve holds the Packers hostage in regard to what they need to do during the draft.
  
  I feel for the Packers' front office. Its a losing situation for them regardless on what they decide.
  
  

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    KathyR replied July 14, 2008

    You've got that right! With Farve, it's always "all about him". He thinks he's the team's head coach, owner, and likely the NFL commish all rolled up in one. If he saw another player acting like he does, he'd be the first to jump down the guy's throat.
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  belairjeff said July 13, 2008

  wow - your analysis has as many holes in it as a Packer cheesehead. i too am a life-long Packer fan and i see it a different way. go to my blog: jeffircink.blogspot.com for my thoughts on the subject.
  but a few quick thoughts. just because Brett cried during his retirement press conference and said he wanted to call it quits doesn't mean he can't change his mind. and if you're sick of hearing about this situation, turn your TV and radio off and don't read the sports section. Brett isn't asking YOU to play again. it's his reputation and legacy that HE has to worry about - no you or anyone else for that matter.
  and Rogers was PROMISED he'd start? don't think so. whoever give your team the best chance at a run for the Super Bowl is the starter - and it ain't Rogers when Favre's in the mix.
  Funny how when Thompson addressed the media Saturday and was asked which QB - Rogers or Favre - gives the Pack the best chance to go to the SB, TT DECLINED TO COMMENT. why is that. helluva vote of confidence for Rogers, ain't it??

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    wolfpack replied July 13, 2008

    I'm getting real sick of the abosolute blind devotion people give to Brett. I love the guy. Probably the best QB to ever play the game. But he retired...2x. He retires, we all feel the dissapointment. Back in March, he calls Ted Thompson and says he's changed his mind...he wants to play. Ted and the team welcome him back with open arms. The charter a plane to go down and finalize the deal. 2 days later he calls back and says he changed his mind again and wants to stay retired. Coach Mac and TT ask if he's sure and he says yes. Fast forward to last month, and all of a sudden Scott and Bonita Favre start rumors that Brett was forced out by TT. Then Brett wants to come back....after they draft for a whole new offense based on Bretts 2nd decision to retire. So when the taem says sorry, no can do, Brett uses his mommy and brother to start more contraversy about how TT doesn't want him around. How about being a MAN and saying it yourself? How about being a MAN and sticking to your decisions? Say what you gonna do and do it instead of holding the team hostage. By the way according to Leroy Butler, even though most of the players won't say it publicly, they too are getting real sick and tired of the "will he or won't he" game. They also all love him, but say it's time to move on and quit playing with us like this.
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      Douglas_Report replied July 14, 2008

      I think that is the general sentiment of those not stuck on Favre
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    Douglas_Report replied July 14, 2008

    GM's do that all the time, even with established future HOF caliber QB's anytime there's a dispute for the starting position and whether Thompson and McCarthy want to admit it, they have a doozy of a dispute on their hands right now
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  belairjeff said July 13, 2008

  " - not you" instead of "no you"

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  packer_backer said July 13, 2008

  Brett made his bed - now he needs to lie in it.
  Have some class Brett

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  CALBears said July 13, 2008

  Are you serious? Exactly which cards are the Packers holding? You mean the card they play in which they release Farve? That's a great one, release him outright so he can haunt them in the division. Oh, you mean the card in which they bring him back as a backup? Can't wait to see how the Packer nation reacts to Rodgers first bad series when they see Farve on the sideline, in a baseball hat, collecting 12m. Oh, you must mean the card where they trade Farve, only problem is he's making 12m, and to trade him he'll surely have to rework his contract to fit under the cap, but he's not going to redo his deal to go anywhere he doesn't want, and the best teams in need of a QB, save for maybe the Skins and Ravens, are in his own Division. Face it, much like Jordan, and Magic, Farve is one of the select few players that's bigger than the organization. All the Pack can do is suck it up, trot him out there, and give Rodgers a giant contract extension and live with Farve.

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  Jimson42 said July 13, 2008

  I agree with the writer. I would add that I think Brett's age was a factor in the NFC playoff loss. I think a younger man would have been less affected by the poor playing conditions. I think for Brett's good and the good of the team Brett should remain retired. Brett retired for all the right reasons. Just like you can't live forever you can't play forever either. It is time for him to keep his word and let the team move forward to the next chapter in Packer history.

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  paulthornton said July 13, 2008

  Favre who? What kind of question is that? You can't tell me that you weren't as shocked or disbelieving as I or many other Packer fans were when he announced his retirement. There are people who try to retire every day in this world and find out that they can't handle the decision they made. Even Mike Holmgren and Tony Dungy are hanging around for one more year (so they say). Welcome back Brett, I never believed you were leaving in the first place. Go Pack Go. I'll be making my reservation in Tampa for next year's Super Bowl.
  Papa T
  A Life Long Packer Fan Living In Chippewa Falls, WI

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    Douglas_Report replied July 14, 2008

    Dont make those reservations just yet, even with Favre in the fold as starter they arent a lock for Tampa in Feb....i think that's what makes his decision to "come back" all the more strange for me personally unless the Pack give him Mon's-Sat's off during the season......that I would like to see, then he really would be "above the team".......let's see that play out in that locker room this season, love him or not, Brett has lost alot of support in that locker room (although none of them will admit it) and nothing less than a SuperBowl win would heal that, which as I said, isnt guaranteed
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  Neutral said July 13, 2008

  Favre is just a sefl centered individual, he can't keep a decision straight in his head. The vast majoroty shows that Bret favre has a lacok of a life outside of football for him to anually return to this same paradox every year.
  The game of football is bigger than Favre, as is Green Bay - The annual emotional blackmail just makes a mockery of the organization, the memories of playing days and te legacy he created in Wisconsin.
  God forbod he comes back goes to another team and ends up have a miserable season culminating in a Theismann type injury......Leave on top, stay out with reputation intact, Brett is just another part of lifes story, graduation from the working man into the wise man who can provide sage advice rather than be the center of attention.

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  3rdguesser said July 13, 2008

  Whose fault is it? Whose Fault is IT?? WHOSE FAULT IS IT??!! Get serious. You mean you have to ask? It's a TEAM game. Very few players would have gotten away with Favre's last-minute commitments the previous two years, let alone the nonsense he's trying to pull this year. You don't retire in March and then change your mind in July because you've got the itch again and don't know what to do with yourself.
  Someone needs to explain to Favre that people who are scratching to get by on their paychecks have to honor the agreements and commitments they make. If they can do it so can Favre. And he shouldn't need to be reminded that it's WRONG to leave your team and your teammates in limbo right up to the last minute every year.
  The Packers deserved to know Favre's final decision in time to prepare for the draft (at the latest). You can't run a football team (or any other organization) effectively with players (especially key players) coming and going as they please.
  Favre is not that much better than other QB's, including Aaron Rodgers, that the Packers should risk the upcoming season on whether Favre will give it 100% all season again, or if as he said in March, he just can't put in the work Monday through Saturday anymore.

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  ibanez165 said July 13, 2008

  Die hard cheese head?? Please, spare me your bulls***. Obviously You have never played sports or been involved with something that you put your entire life into and devoted all your time to. Because if you did you'd no that right after a season, if you didn't make it as far as you wanted, you feel like crap, and it's your time now, almost vacation to take it easy. But when the new season is right around the corner you are stoked and ready to kick ass, you get the 'itch' to start playing, you feel the adrenaline in your veins, That's exactly what Favre is feeling. and for you to just want to give up on Favre as team leader is ridiculous!! After all Favre has given you and the community, I grew up with Favre starting, he is the only QB for the packers. I would take one more horrible season with Favre then any good seasons rodgers(who doesn't care about the fans) could give us. Packer games will never be the same to watch without Favre holding the reigns.

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    Douglas_Report replied July 14, 2008

    "I would take one more horrible season with Favre then any good seasons rodgers(who doesn't care about the fans) "
    
    so Rodgers doesnt care about the fans now? but what if he wins the fans a Super Bowl title this year, after all this mess? would he still be indifferent to the fans? I seriously doubt it since winning cures almost all ills in sports.....
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  zeebz4 said July 13, 2008

  I agree with you on this one. I don't think it's fair for Brett Farve to FINALLY say he's retiring and the Packers plan for a new legacy to begin this season, then Farve up and decides, oh no, I think I want to play again....and people think it's totally fair to just push Aaron Rogers to the side and let Farve back in? I don't think it should matter how awesome Farve's record has been with the Packers, you have to be fair to everyone, and to just let him try to slide back into his spot is 100% unfair not only to Aaron Rogers, but to the rest of the team and officials. Brett Farve needs to accept the fact that he retired, and if he wants back in that he needs to go to another team. It's not like there's a permanent throne at Lambeau just for Brett Farve so he can come and go as he pleases. Regardless of his record, people. You have to consider every detail and stipulation involved in a contract and retirement, and keep it FAIR. It reminds me of when Michael Jordan came back from retirement to the Wizards...a lackluster team which, in my opinion, took away from the golden legacy he was trying to leave behind by coming back in such a way. If you're going to leave, then leave. None of this flip-flopping crap.

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  red98pete said July 13, 2008

  Bottom line..this game is about getting to the super bowl. If you look at all 32 teams from last year, I dont think anyone will disagree that Farve was in the top ten among QB's. If he wants to return, you have to let him, and you have to start him. Its a good business decision. Having lived in GB, I will tell you now, that Ted Thompson will anger enough people in WI, that there will be seats available at Lambeau, and they will call for his head. Loosing revenue is not a good option.

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    packersbc replied July 13, 2008

    they have 70k names on the waiting list, arnt going to lose any revenue
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    tika99 replied July 14, 2008

    Seats available at Lambeau? Like Wrigley, people will go to the game for the experience. It's not going to affect how many of the seats are filled. Sure, people may give up their season tickets, but all that means is that people who formerly had to wait 50 years for tickets will now get them in 45!
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    SRRX22 replied July 14, 2008

    THATS A BUNCH OF CRAP. FARVE IS NOT BIGGER THAN THE TEAM AND ANYONE WHO REALLY THINKS ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING SHOULD BE PISSED AT FARVE FOR RIPPING THE TEAM APART. SHUT UP ALREADY. IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK, SEND YOUR PAPERS TO THE LEAGUE OFFICE AND SHOW UP AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
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  DreadsSwayin said July 13, 2008

  they should let him come back and keep him as a back up. if he wants to play so badly and if he doesnt like it, who cares. whos not god, hes brett farve. its the rogers era, lets see what he can do. who says that he cant be steve young to bretts joe montana. give the kid the chance, hes more than ready.

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    Douglas_Report replied July 14, 2008

    That's the problem, fans idolize him as a "god" and that's why the situation is even debatable
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  squish059 said July 13, 2008

  i dont even care what he does. he would really help out baltimore, chicago and minnesota if he went to any of those teams.... making them instant top contenders. otherwise he's wasting his time and probably will embarrass himself. should let sleeping dogs lay

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  bw3racing said July 13, 2008

  As much as I have been reading it. Let him play. Ted Thompson has got to be dumber then a block of rocks if he thinks that Aaron Rodgers is going to get him to the Super Bowl. We've got the players, we need a quarterback to get us there. Sit back and watch Aaron your time will come just not yet. Besides rumor has it Brian Brohm is more ready for the NFL and obiviously you didn't learn much being under Brett for 4 years. Sorry to say

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  JAMYE123 said July 13, 2008

  WOW TO FAVRE FANS, I AM A PACKER FAN FROM INDIANA. IT IS A VERY HARD DESICION TO ANNOUNCE RETIREMENT. I DO AGREE HE IS GREAT AND WOULD PROBABLY DO EXTREMELY WELL THIS SEASON,BUT THERE IS ALWAYS WHAT IF? WHAT IF HE COMES BACK AND DOES HORRIBLE,WHAT IF HE COMES BACK AND GETS HURT,WHAT IF HE COMES BACK AND WE GO TO THE SUPERBOWL? HEY WHOS TO SAY AARON RODGERS CAN'T GET US THERE,I BELIEVE HE CAN GET US PRETTY DARN CLOSE. BRETT STAY RETIRED AND ENJOY LIFE!! LET AARON TAKE THE ROPES.

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  EarlBB said July 13, 2008

  favre=selfish egomaniac. HOF QB that needs to grow up. you made your bed now lie in it.

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  olstuf said July 13, 2008

  For all you long time die hard Packer fans: I go back farther than Scooter McLean, Howie Fergeson, Verlyl Switzer, Tobin Rote and lots more never were players. The Packers survived in spite of those players and will survive Brett Favre's on again off again retirement. Sure he thinks he can play yet. That is what superstars are. I remember when I quit baseball, amatuer only; I knew I could still out play the younger fellows. I came back and found out that I was a step or two slower, reflexes a shade slow and could not play up to my expectations. It took only that one time to realize it was time to make way for someone else. Sure Bret can give some great moments but at the end of the season when he is worn down, he will find that the reserve just isn't there and something happens like the last pass of the Giants game. Ted Williams had it right, hit a home run and trot around the bases into retirement. What better way to go? Thanks Bret, but your time is past.

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    Douglas_Report replied July 14, 2008

    love the Ted Williams reference btw, but I believe the main problem the Pro-Favre crowd(s) have is the fear of uncertainty, especially since Favre wants to come back. Favre made all this the more difficult, on the surface anyways, by having the tearful press conference back on March 6. Remove that from all this and everyone, including the Packers, are welcoming the guy back with open arms (not that the Pack isnt right now, but that's another story) and this isnt even a issue. This should be a textbook example on how NOT to handle a retirement for a sports star, no matter how hyped or great the player........icon or not.........
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  oldergolfer said July 13, 2008

  I have been a loyal Green Bay Packer fan for over 50 years, and your typical Favre fan for 17 years;
  however, the ONLY reason Favre wants to come back to the NFL, is a very personal, selfish motive:
  there still a couple of records he still wants, and Packers be damned.

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  jewellmark said July 13, 2008

  I agree with everything the writer had to say. While I am sure that Farve genuinely wants to return at the moment, the problem is that three weeks from now he may reverse his decision AGAIN. It is only July - If Farve does actually come back the starting position doesn't need to be decided for several weeks. Given his previous changes of heart, why should the Packers be in any hurry to jump back on the Farve bandwagon - certainly not until he is actually reinstated. The Packers have taken the best course of action in a no-win situation - There is nothing that says that IF Farve does return and is in game shape that he cannot be the starter - but why should the Packers be in any hurry to take any course of action until they need to. I wanted him to return after the season and if he had returned in March when he had wanted to that would have been great - but it seems that his doesn't know what he wants and he is putting everyone through hell finding himself.

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  puffercow said July 13, 2008

  Totally agreed. Go away Bret; You should be gone three years ago; You should know to cherish your lucky last season; don't spoil you legancy by being a fool.

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  joeblack said July 13, 2008

  hes a cry baby talks about his teamatesin 05 quits cause they didnt make it to the super bowl 07says he wont come back then now wants in again does anybody care about favre anyway. hes old go out with pride, i had respect for him until now that he wants back in. my opinon is if hes back this year he will fall flat on his face and wish he stayed retired. packers wont repeat the record they had in 07 with favre in 08 body wont be able to hold up

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  Cowboy59 said July 13, 2008

  Problem is Favre is a lock on the HOF when he's eligible. If he decides to unretire and have a worst than a miserable season, his lock for the HOF would be shaky at best.
  I know because a certain tightend (mentioning no names) retired, unretired, then retired again. He deserves to be in the HOF but he hasn't made it yet. During his playing days, he was always #2 in his position behind What's - his -name of the Raiders.
  That's why I feel it would be a mistake for him to try to come back and upset the apple cart.

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  brett4GBQB08 said July 13, 2008

  Seriously, Brett Favre cannot win! Yes, maybe he made his decision a little hastily in March but if he hadn't, he would have heard oodles and oodles of complaints because "he's taking too long" or "he's holding the franchise hostage". Favre was pressured to make a decision and he did based on what he was feeling at the time. Lots of players go into retirement and then come back out of retirement, it's not unheard of. This is his life here, he made a decision that he now regrets. How many of us have done the same?

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    DreadsSwayin replied July 13, 2008

    well now he should live with his decison and back up aaron rogers.
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    Douglas_Report replied July 14, 2008

    I know the team did ask him to make a quicker decision this year but 1. I think that was due to his dragging his heels the years before and 2. they probably felt he was going to do this anyways because the loss was draining on the whole organization, especially considering they werent even considered a playoff team prior to the season. I dont think he was exactly "pressured" at the time but I can certainly see how he might have felt "compelled" to do what he did in March, but if there was any shred of doubt in his mind, he shouldnt have gone through with it, simple as that. Of course he regrets his decision, but should the Packers be forced to changed their minds because he changed his? Football wise, if he can help them win, it makes perfect sense. Business wise as well since he is still technically a Packer. But the PR storm that has already resulted from this mess has negatively affected the franchise for years to come (IMHO). All things considered, it should be an interesting season this coming year. Just think, if you're tired of hearing about #4 now, just wait till September gets here
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  lcooksey said July 13, 2008

  I think Brett should be allowed to return! Let him continue the way he played in the last game of his career- throwing an interception on a wild throw. He was reverting to the old Brett Farve. He had a good season but let's not forget the two before that. He would be a fool not to stop now on a high note- the odds he has another good season are slim!

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  eagles4ever05 said July 13, 2008

  Honestly this is stupid let him come and then Release him or let him start But the problem with that it would hard to see Brett in an other uniform walkin out onto the field

  

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  chuckyj360 said July 13, 2008

  The Packers are Barry Sandersing Brett Farve. If they don't want him they should trade him or release him so he can still play football if he still wants too.

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  Otwins2 said July 13, 2008

  Brett Favre is an over-hyped buffoon out on another ego trip. We're tired of your crap, Brett. Your "great" name is already sounding like trash and it's only going to get worse. The Pack was fine before you came and will be fine this year if you keep your "attention-grabbing" itches to yourself. Didn't your mommy give you enough attention as a child??!!

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  Muzzie0323 said July 13, 2008

  We have covered all the bases as far as if Brett should come back or not. we have argued who is right and who is wrong. But the question I have is this, will anyone really be happy with either decision. If Favres comes back, how much respect do you think he is going to get after putting everyone through this crap for yet another season?? If he is released, then Ted Thompson better get out of town quickly. If he is traded, same thing. there is no easy answer to this problem.
  As far as my personal opinion goes on this subject, Favre needs to stay retired, because even if he had changed his mind mid stream, this constant flip flopping year after year has soured alot of people to the integrity of Brett Favre. and how can a teammate look Brett in the face and honestly think Brett has the best interest of the team on his mind. And maybe Rodgers isn't going to be the QB people think he will be, or maybe he is. but we may or may not ever find out. Nobody plays forever, and every team has to adjust to life with out its super star. Thats just the way sports goes. So all I can say is, it will be an interesting year in G.B..That is the only thing all us fans can count on for sure..

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  mkevoice said July 13, 2008

  I have to ask a rhetorical question. Brett, what would your father think of your behavior? Did he teach you to be a man and take responsability for you actions? Or did you grow up in a Nintendo world where a do-over button exists? You made a decision. You spent a long time in preparation to announce that decision. You can't commit 100% to playing the game.
  , which is in the end, just a "game". It is time. You should have and could have walked away with your head held high. Now it is just time to walk away.

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  snunu333 said July 14, 2008

  Seriously...what kind of person thinks even a couple of bad years would make Brett Favre's hall of fame induction "shaky". Get real.

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  ivylily said July 14, 2008

  Favre's behavior over the past several months of typical of that of an athlete with a gunslinger mentality. He seems to think that he is above the rules set for any other player. When I watched him during his tearful press conference, I felt a) embarrassed that Favre cried, b) highly suspicious that he was really retiring, and c) thinking that he had somehow placed the blame for the loss in his last game upon himself (not that inaccurately, I might add). He was again operating under his gunslinger mode of act first, think later. Now that he's had time to actually THINK about what he did, he again wants to change the rules in his favor. You can't hold an entire city, a franchise, and a business operation, which the Packers are, hostage to your immature decision-making. You've retired. You said twice in the last few months that you retired. Stay retired, go out and do some good in the community, and hope that this embarrassing turn of events fades away from (most) people's collective thinking.

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    Douglas_Report replied July 14, 2008

    It wont fade as long as ppl in Green Bay keep holding rallies for him and the media continues to get exclusives with his family......maybe they need to disappear too.......
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  squirrel said July 14, 2008

  I was, and still am content with his retirement. BUT if he truly wants to play then he should be allowed to. There have been some comments that he should be backup to Rodgers. Given how Rodgers tends to get injuried nearly every time he plays, Favre will be back in the game soon enough. If he plays well, Rodgers will be back to riding the bench. Personally I wouldn't mind sitting on a bench, holding a clip board for the money Favre is going to make.
  
  I don't fault the guy for wanting to come back. Many people have "thought" that they wanted to retire only to change their minds later on. Some prove they can still play at a high level while others show that they should have stayed retired.
  
  I have to wonder about those who rather him playing for another team. How are they going to feel if he goes to either Minny or the Bears. And adding to that thought, how are they going to feel if Favre beats the Packers? My guess is not too many people are going to be happy with TT's decision.
  
  I feel bad for the up and coming ceremony for Winters and Brown. Winters picked Favre to present him with his plaque. Sadly all of this media attention will take away the day for Winters and Brown. Sad. They have earned their special day and now the focus will be on Favre and the Packers.

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    Douglas_Report replied July 14, 2008

    "There have been some comments that he should be backup to Rodgers. Given how Rodgers tends to get injuried nearly every time he plays, Favre will be back in the game soon enough"
    
    Wouldnt it be funny if it worked out this way? Then it would really add fuel to the detractors of Rodgers already trying to run him and Thompson out of Wisconsin like national traitors or something and if he came off the bench and lead them to victories, that would add to the legend of "Brett Favre". Real sad thing is, at this rate, Rodgers will never be a starter in the NFL, cause Green Bay cant/wont move him in with Favre still alive and no other team will probably give the kid a chance because they havent seen enough of him.....a pity really
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  candlebizlady said July 14, 2008

  Does poor Brett feel left out and neglected, therefore the need to un-retire. Well too bad....stay retired and move on with your lift. Personally I hope the Packers sit on you.

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  bigmike236 said July 14, 2008

  favre needs to stay gone, if he comes back now, all the work that green bay put in to prepare aaron rodgers for the upcoming season would have been for nothing, the faith that every teammate on the roster that was put into aaron rodgers, would have been for nothing, now they have to deal with someones indecision that immediately affects the entire team, not because of who he is, but because of the position that he plays, from a business standpoint, you dont invest in something for the future and throw it away for something in the past. The ultimate problem is that favre is addicted to the game and he needs immediate rehab, someone needs to tell him that theres a great life after football.....PASS THE TORCH BRETT!! SPEND TIME WITH THE FAM, TAKE THE KIDS TO SCHOOL!!! JUST WALK AWAY!!!

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  action678 said July 14, 2008

  Noones saying that Brett would't give you the pack the best chance of winning but to echo the comments of some of the other people here he retired so stay retired and as for the packers management I think since you are in a no win situation no matter how you handle it you should stop commenting on anything that has to do with the packers and Brett and just keep the focus on the active players on your roster not on Brett. As a sports fan I would like to know what the TEAM is doing to prepare for the upcoming season not Brett, he made his decision. I think it is an insult tot he rest of the players on that TEAM that all the focus is on Brett when HE not sure if he still has it in himself to continue to give the 100% the he and the rest of us are acustomed to him giving week in and week out, so lets put this to bed and get ready for the new season and let Brett get ready for life after the NFL.

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  badbones4 said July 14, 2008

  I think that Aaron Rodgers need to ask to be traded so that he'll have a chance to play the game. As long as Farve is around, he will not get the chance. All QB's should avoid playing for the Packers because the Packers only want Farve.

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    Douglas_Report replied July 14, 2008

    haha, seems that way doesnt it.......and it's Packer fans, not necessarily the Packer organization......the organization was trying to move on
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  DFnLynn said July 14, 2008

  I see the Favre/Packers situation like I would an ex-girlfriend situation. She dumps you 2 or 3 times, but you keep allowing her to come back into your life. Meanwhile, your friends are tellling you NOT to do that... that you must move on with your life and that it will be better for you in the long run.
  
  If the Packers ever want to move on and build and prepare for their future, then Favre has to respect this and stick to his word and stay retired. It's not all about Brett Favre and if he respects the Packers and their fans so much, he should realize this!!!

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  canapat said July 14, 2008

  The truth is Favre was trying to forced out by Thompson and that is why he was going to retire. Now Favre finally came to his senses and said screw Thompson. Hopefully the Packers stockholders will come together and ask for Thompson's resignation. That would be the best thing for the Packers whether Favre plays or not.

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    canapat replied July 14, 2008

    I hate to see I told you so but Favre basically said in his interview the same thing I said without naming anyone but we know who he was talking about. I have been saying for years that Thompson is the pronlem I think it time for him to retire.
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  Aim111 said July 14, 2008

  Why is it so hard to believe that Favre is wanting to come back? Gee, you'd think this was the first time a guy had retired and then reconsidered it. Jordan left the NBA to play baseball, he came back. Mario Lemieux retired from the Pens due to his injuries, he barely could bend over to tie his skates and he came back! Are their legacies tainted? I don't think so. These men are born to play their sport, they live it, breathe it, their worlds revolve around it and it's who they are, not just a part of their life, it is their life. It's hard to walk away from something that's been a part of you for your entire life. It must be hard to walk away from something that you love so much because you can no longer perform at the level you expect from yourself, to retire when you can't do it is difficult for most sports figures but to walk away knowing that you still have gas left in the tank, that you could still do it for another year or two and know that you could keep going must be a nightmare. And I feel that's how Favre sees it.
  
  I have always felt that the media pushed Brett into retiring. Every year it was is this it? I mean seriously, it was so stupid. They made it a big story, I never thought the man was ready to go out but they were ready for it, ready to comtemplate it on every single pre game show. It was their story not his. I feel that he was forced into making a decision before he was ready for it. He was drained at the end of the season and he probably has some pressure from inside his inner circle to get out perhaps a wife who's tired of raising kids on her own for a good part of the year.... but those aren't good reasons to retire. I think that in his heart he knew it was wrong which to me...is why he was so emotional at the press conference. He wasn't crying because he was going to miss the sport or his team or because he hated to see his career end or was thinking I still have records to break and now I can't do it. I think it was more because he knew it was not the right time but was doing it to please others or to shut up the media. It was not the right choice for him and I am sure he knew it.
  Personally, after all this crap, if I were Favre, I'd stay out now. No one on this earth could make me come back to the sport, to that team. I always thought the Packers were a class organization. I'm a Steeler fan, I bleed Black and Gold and have alwys thought that the Packer fans were like us, a working class town who loved their team and their players. I hated Brett Favre for years, because he was on another team, because he was so freaking amazing to watch and because our team didn't have him...I was jealous and envious of the Pack but I always respected him, his talent, his love for the game, his passion, his desire to fight and go out there and bleed it out onto the field. Being good isn't always enough, there has to be more to it, deeper fires burning inside that many of these guys who are very talented indeed but are only out there for the cash they just don't have "IT". Favre had it. He loved the game. He gave it his all.
  If given the chance to have Jerome Bettis back or even back in the day, if Jack Lambert or Terry Bradshaw or Lynn Swann or Joe Greene had wanted to come back..we Pittsburgh fans would have been on our knees pleading and begging for it and if it had happened we would have been thrilled for them to come back, even for one year, even if it wasn't a huge success. It's a shame that there are fans who seem to have forgotten just what Brett did for that team, you are forgetting just what he is, a quaterback that gave your town back the respect that it once had, he brought the Green Bay Packers back to what they were once with Lombardi and Starr. He gave so much of himself, gave all he could and for that alone the man deserves a chance to have one more go of it, even if it's a disaster, even if he embarasses himself.. he deserves to KNOW that his career is over and not spend the rest of his life wondering what might have been.

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    Douglas_Report replied July 14, 2008

    I dont think it's "hard" to believe that Brett wants back in on this game we all know and love so well and that he played so well for so many years....it's the constant indecision. I think it has worn thin with the organization, hence the reported hardball stance they currently have with him, and worn thin with some fans (although reports of rallies show they he is still praised like some sort of "god").
    You're 1000% right about the this being the media's story but I once again dont feel that he was "pressured" by anyone to make the decision he made on March 6. If his career has taught us anything is that the guy doesnt feel pressure, on and/or off the field and I seriously doubt he was concerned about another spring filled with "will he or wont he" from the outlets. Whatever his reasons were for tearing up at the presser are moot now because it just looks like he had no intention of retiring in the first place. The question then becomes, "why even go thru any of it?". Seriously, he had to know that he wouldnt be able to stay away this summer (not to mention years to come). This was one of the few players I seriously felt they'd have to pull off the field literally because he just doesnt know when to quit and noone is there to "regulate" him in that manner.
    One thing's for certain, the pressure's all on the Packers now.....intentionally or not, Favre has put the Packers (and some of their fans) in a no win situation that could ripple forward for countless years. Or it could be over by tomorrow............
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  dustinj13 said July 14, 2008

  I'm in Mississippi and his whole family are jerks....... He should stay retired. Funny thing my cousin saw him riding a tractor going down his familys house driveway in Kiln, Mississppi about a month ago!

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  Uprock said July 14, 2008

  I used to hate Favre so much because I'm a 49er fan and we all know why we hate him. But now that I'm older and able to see past all that, he's a great guy. He's earned my respect as a very noble and honorable player, but damn! Why should he continue to beat himself up by coming back and dragging the entire team down with him when he's not doing good because of age/injuires. Favre should just retire. He won't get looked at as one of those QBs that did nothing. He'll be looked at as a legend in many aspects.

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  SeabeeBU1 said July 14, 2008

  I simply cannot believe that there are this many bear and viking vans claiming to be Packer fans here. Get real people! Look at what the man has done for the franchise over his career and then tell me that you don't want him because he made you mad. He is still the best QB for the Packers for the upcoming season, hands down. He give the Packers the best chance to win, week in and week out. And, he is human, we all change our minds about things expecially when it comes to giving up the one thing we do best. So ladies and gentlemen, I ask you this.... what would you do if you were in his shoes, or TT's shoes, or MM's shoes. Problem with the question is: your'e not and they are... so quit whining and start showing respect and appreciation for what we have had. Afterall, I'm sure the Bears, Lions, and Vikings would all take him in a heartbeat because they are tired of losing to him. As far as i'm concerned, he plays until he quits showing up on game day!

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    zeebz4 replied July 14, 2008

    I'm sure the Bears don't want Farve just because they're tired of losing to him. If anything, it's because he's a great quarterback, of course! And as far as your concern goes, you quit when you say you retire...he not only quit the game by doing that, but he ended his career. He just needs to learn to deal with it!
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  goldengirl318 said July 14, 2008

  First, I think Brett Favre has earned the right to change his mind- He has given you packer fans a Superbowl ring- he has played hurt, sick, and through all the trail and tribulations life has thrown his way...and always has seemed to deliver. So before you all go passing the torch down to Aaron Rodgers...remember he has earned nothing he hasn't played out in freezing temperature, or after the death of his father..or after getting a concussion...So before you question the decisions of the man that single handedly gave your franchise the opportunity to win and has fought for you when he literally didn't have any fight left in him ...think of the alternative. I'd take Brett as my QB any day of the week

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    Douglas_Report replied July 14, 2008

    not always as easy as you made it sound just now.........
    
    As for what Mr. Rodgers as earned, try the respect and trust of the players in the lockerroom (remember them, the ppl that helped make Favre what he is today?) and apparently the trust of the organization as a whole to see them take such a hardline stance with Favre in the 1st place.......
    
    I fail to see what playing hurt, sick, in freezing cold, after a parent's death, and/or getting a concussion has to do with retiring. Favre should have never done the flip-flopping and then this thread doesnt exist. That's what the Favre-detractors are mostly preaching right now
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  bhtiek said July 14, 2008

  I also am a Packer fan, but i am also sick and tried of the game #4 keeps playing. I think Rodgers will make as good if not better plays then Brett. The one thing you can count on from Brett is Touchdown passes and also at least 1 if not 2 bad interceptions per game. Let Rodgers have his shot its time the Brett era moves on to reitirement. BRETT YOU MADE YOUR CHOICE NOW LIVE WITH IT !!!!

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  Mikey139 said July 14, 2008

  The Packers are playing this just right. If he officially "unretires", then he is a member of the Green Bay Packers. They can use him as they widh, start him or make him the backup. They will get trade offers from all over, especially after some contending team's QB goes down. They will get something for his playing rights.

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    Douglas_Report replied July 14, 2008

    Makes perfect business sense dont you think?
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  favrefan4life said July 14, 2008

  i agree 100 percent with aim111. i am a die hard packers fan as well, but feel that he has given this organization too much. we were hiding in the dog pound for almost thirty years, until brett walked in. there is not many people that you can give credit to for greenbays success in the past two decades. favre has given his all out there every year to make us happy. you guys have no idea how blessed and spoiled we've been for the past 16 years. many teams such as the niners, dolphins, and broncos fans would kill to have their hall of fame qbs back. so why is it that we wont let favre back for maybe one or two more years. maybe he wants to go out on top and if he fails, so what...he's a legend and at least he will know that he was done for good. why is it so hard to give him what he wants? he gave us what we wanted. we owe this to him. i dont care who thinks he doesnt deserve it because thats bullshit, he brought greenbay back in the league. if you look back 17 years, where was greenbay, and what did they accomplish? they did absolutely nothing for thirty years. so you gotta look at what he's set up for this team. brett deserves more respect than what he is receiving.

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  rhcp879 said July 14, 2008

  I don't see how any football fan would tell Brett 2 stay retired. I am ashamed of you guys.

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  che422 said July 14, 2008

  Favre Crisis Triggers Massive Sell-Off of Packers Stock
  
  Since 1950, shares of Packers stock have held their value in the face of every market gyration and downturn. But the uncertainty of the Favre situation and its inept handling by Packers top management, especially the dithering of GM Ted Thompson, has caused share prices to take a dramatic tumble in the face of a massive three-day sell-off, beginning last Thursday.
  
  http://www.sportsmansdaily.com/Favre_Crisis.html
  If you're holding any Packers stock, my advice is to SELL!
  

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  Dawks08 said July 14, 2008

  dude is old whats he supposed to do scramble on a wheelchair? let rodgers come in, after every montana is a steve young well damn thats pretty darn good now isnt it, and in no way is favre selfish he wouldnt be a QB then, only Willie Beamen and even he changed his way
  Brett Favre good luck

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  zeebz4 said July 14, 2008

  I think its funny how someone went in and took points away from everyone who's valid thoughts and opinions were AGAINST Brett Farve coming back....lol.

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  jbutler said July 14, 2008

  I wouldn't say the Packer don't need Brett Favre the football player, after all, none of their other quarterbacks are proven. But I don't think they need Brett Favre the headache. His ego shouldn't be bigger than the team. I liked the article though. You can read some of my stuff at www.thesportsrotation.squarespace.com.

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  bozman2 said July 14, 2008

  Hey, the guy won a Super Bowl, so did Trent Dilfer; he's got a bunch of records, great, including most career interceptions; and if there was a poll for the most selfish, self absorbed athlete he'd beat out even Roger Clemens.
  
  If one of the most important traits for a QB is to be a team leader, this guy keeps failing.
  
  Enough with this friggin' non-story...

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  komments said July 15, 2008

  You ever decide to change jobs and think - sheesh what an idiot I am. I wish I could go back. Guess what - this is America and unless you burned your bridges when you left - YOU CAN. The truth is that Green Bay now has an opportunity to get something for nothing. If they don't want to play Favre they should be able to trade him - even if it is for a late round pick that is something. If they keep him on the roster then they would be stupid to start Rodgers over Favre - remember, all he did was take them to the NFC Championship game last year.
  
  Either way, it is win-win for Green Bay unless they do something stupid like ... I dunno ... making him Rodger's backup.

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  laddie said July 15, 2008

  Brett is the Greatest. Any one who can't see that is not very smart. you Guys go out there and play the game the way he has and then talk. Otherwise keep your ideas to yourself. show some respect for a Great player

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  Dawks08 said July 15, 2008

  ever heard of randall cunningham 3 time nfl mvp yea he was the greatest not this brokeback biotch with 2 hof receivers sucking his sad excuse of a dick yea i had respect and i lost it he has so many ppurtunites when randall and soon donovan dont not fair grow up pansy

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  neshpack said July 16, 2008

  The packers should allow THEIR player to return to HIS team if he wants to. If the team decides that he is the starter, let him start or if they feel more comfprtable with AR in the new sytem then allow him to backup or if they think there is trade value, then trade him. Nothing is proven yet by AR, nothing is proven yet whether Brett can play to the level of last year. Bottom line is that Brett is under contract with the Green Bay Packers. Anyone that signs a 10 year contract should know that anything can happen during that time, including your company hiring a new boss that you may not see eye to eye with. Unless you are a big double standard fan you should agree that the packers would be doing a huge diservice to the organization to release Brett and allow him out of his contract and get nothing in return. Suck it up Brett, come back to Green Bay and let the chips fall, like you agreed to do when you signed your contract......or go ride a tractor.

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  neshpack said July 16, 2008

  The packers should allow THEIR player to return to HIS team if he wants to. If the team decides that he is the starter, let him start or if they feel more comfprtable with AR in the new sytem then allow him to backup or if they think there is trade value, then trade him. Nothing is proven yet by AR, nothing is proven yet whether Brett can play to the level of last year. Bottom line is that Brett is under contract with the Green Bay Packers. Anyone that signs a 10 year contract should know that anything can happen during that time, including your company hiring a new boss that you may not see eye to eye with. Unless you are a big double standard fan you should agree that the packers would be doing a huge diservice to the organization to release Brett and allow him out of his contract and get nothing in return. Suck it up Brett, come back to Green Bay and let the chips fall, like you agreed to do when you signed your contract......or go ride a tractor.

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