Found November 09, 2012 on
Buzz On Broad:
Last night the NHL and NHLPA met for the third consecutive day. Both Gary Bettman and Donald Fehr barely said anything to the media after yesterday's meeting. TSN obtained the memo that was sent to all of the players in the NHL after last night's meeting:
Today, we met with the NHL off and on over several hours. A number of matters were discussed, including our proposal for a new pension plan, revenue sharing, the players' share and salary cap issues, and the owners' "make whole" concept. Present today were Chris Campoli,Mathieu Darche, Ron Hainsey, Johan Hedberg, Manny Malhotra, andKevin Westgarth (David Backes was present for part of the day), as well as Mathieu Schneider, Joe Reekie, Steve Webb and Rob Zamuner.
No new proposals were exchanged on pension issues, but we will discuss this issue again tomorrow (Friday). We did receive a proposal on revenue sharing in response to the proposal we made this week, but this subject still needs considerable work. In addition, we received a revamped proposal covering players' share and cap issues, their so-called "make whole", and player contracting issues. The owners finally did formally give us their "make whole" idea, which in dollar terms is similar to the discussions Bill Daly had with Steve Fehr a few days ago. While a step forward, a significant gap remains. Moreover, at the same time we were told that the owners want an "immediate reset" to 50/50 (which would significantly reduce the salary cap) and that their proposals to restrict crucial individual contracting rights must be agreed to. As you know, these include - among other things - losing a year of salary arbitration eligibility, allowing the team to file for salary arbitration in any year that the player can file, extending UFA eligibility to age 28 or 8 seasons, limiting contracts to 5 years, and permitting only 5% year to year variability in player contracts. Individually each is bad for players; taken together they would significantly reduce a player's bargaining power and give the owner much more leverage over a player for most if not all of his career.
In short, the concessions on future salary we have offered (at least $948 Million to $1.25 Billion over five years, depending on HRR growth) are not enough. We are still being told that more salaries must be conceded, and that very valuable player contracting rights must be surrendered. So, while we are meeting again, and while some steps are being taken, there is still a lot of work to be done and bridges to be crossed before an agreement can be made.
We will review today's discussions over night and tomorrow morning before meeting again with the owners. Following our meeting tomorrow with the league, we will be able to provide a broader update.
As always, please contact us if you have any questions or comments.
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from Kevin Allen of USA TODAY,
At best, an unidentified NHL official exercised poor judgment in accusing NHL Players Association executive director Donald Fehr of not fully informing his constituents of the NHL's offer.
At worst, owners are embracing a misguided, counter-productive strategy
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The NHL's frustration with NHLPA leader Donald Fehr has been palpable since the beginning of CBA negotiations. It's probably one of the main reasons why the only measurable progress in talks, specifically over the past week or so, came in closed door meetings with Steve Fehr and Bill Daly.
When Donald Fehr took over as NHLPA...
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Via NBC's ProHockeyTalk, it appears Donald Fehr's memorandum to the players following Thursday's meetings has leaked to the public. A rather ominous tone is palpable, but so too is Donald Fehr's hope that the two sides can come together and cross this significant divide.
The NHL and NHLPA are expected to negotiate throughout...
NEW YORK -- The NHL put the course of ongoing labor negotiations back in the hands of the players' association, and left union head Donald Fehr with "some things to consider" Friday night. The fourth straight day of negotiations provided few details, and the sides broke up in the early evening without knowing if they would reconvene later Friday, during the weekend...
NBC’s Pro Hockey Talk has obtained a copy of NHLPA head Donald Fehr’s memo to union members following Thursday’s CBA meetings in New York, the third consecutive day the two sides had met.
Unfortunately for players and fans, the letter, obtained by PHT from an unnamed NHL player, has a somewhat pessimistic tone and states “there is still a lot of work to be done.”
I can't be an optimist on this one. I haven't been an optimist about the American economy in years. So far, so good. I was certainly not an optimist when it came to Kings V Vancouver in round 1... then again, what sane Kings fan was? I was very glad to be wrong on that one.
It's Donald Fehr folks.
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from the CP at TSN,
With the NHL lockout heading into its ninth week, a new issue has cropped up at the negotiating table.
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from Scott Burnside of ESPN,
Neither NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman nor NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr has distinguished himself thus far in terms of charting a course to a successful resolution to the current lockout of the NHL’s players.
Strategies on both sides have been at best curious and at worst deeply flawed.
NEW YORK (AP) No one on either side of the NHL labor fight stormed out of the room, broke off negotiations, or made inflammatory remarks as they left the building.
Quite the contrary, actually.
While negotiators for the league and the union declined to say whether significant progress was made on Day 54 of the lockout, owners and players agreed to return to the bargaining table...
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