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Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports notes in a column this morning that the Red Sox will not move Xander Bogaerts in a deal for Cliff Lee, which means they won't move him for anyone. This note comes up in a column about...how the Red Sox should trade Bogaerts for Lee.
Rosenthal makes the requisite comparisons to the Hanley/Beckett deal, with the hacky conclusion "Don't they want to win a World Series?"
There are a lot of problems with his argument, number one being that the Phillies won't move Lee just for Bogaerts. Via MLBTR, Jon Heyman says that Lee will cost an organization's "three or four" best prospects, plus paying Lee's remaining salary (roughly $25 million a year for three seasons, plus a big buyout). That would make the cost something like Bogaerts, Matt Barnes, and Jackie Bradley, Jr., for the right to pay a mid-30s pitcher $25 million a season.
I get the argument, and of course I'm all for winning. But Cliff Lee guarantees nothing for this or any other year. The Red Sox, despite their early success, have a lot of problems. The bullpen is thin. Four of the starting pitchers -- not one -- have been very inconsistent or injured. The team has gotten better-than-expected returns from players like Daniel Nava and Jose Iglesias, suggesting declines ahead. Meanwhile, the bulk of the offense has been abnormally healthy, which could turn at any point.
It just doesn't make sense for the Red Sox to surrender multiple high-ceiling prospects to take the risk on Lee when they have so many holes this year. I'm not saying they should give up on the season or anything like that, but they aren't one player away. And Bogaerts, the Aruban darling who is mashing his way through the minor leagues and might make an impact on the Sox as early as this season, is not worth surrendering to take a chance that everything falls into place for the Sox and they make a run.
He's off limits, period.
...also of note: Jake Peavy will not make his start today. With his price expected to be much lower than Lee's, the Red Sox (along with the A's and, at times, the Braves) have been reportedly in on him leading up to the deadline. Keep an eye out.
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Should it take an earth-shattering package for the Phils to move Lee? (PHOTO: AP)
As the clock creeps towards today’s 4pm trade deadline, die-hard Phillies fans are sure to be glued to their rumors source of choice. Last night’s report that Jake Peavy is headed to Boston put a sizable dent in the Phillies chances of moving Cliff Lee, leaving only the Tigers, Cardinals and...
Cliff Lee's name is "definitely out" there in trade talks and the free-falling Phillies appear to at least be considering trading one of their aces.
However the price tag on the veteran lefthander is exteremely high leading some to speculate that ulatimately the Phillies may still still hold onto him.
"He's telling people it'll take you three or four...
via Twitter @Pawsox The Pawsox have posted their lineup card for this afternoon's game and Will Middlebrooks as well as Xander Bogaerts are in the game. So who will drive up 95 after the trade?
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The Red Sox are reportedly looking to add a starting pitcher before Wednesday’s MLB trade deadline passes, and one of the names that they’re supposedly interested in is Phillies left-hander Cliff Lee. And while the Phils are open to parting ways with Lee, a former Cy Young winner, they’re reportedly not willing to do so without receiving a valuable young piece in return.
Now that Jake Peavy and Matt Garza have found new homes, Philadelphia Phillies left-hander Cliff Lee is far-and-away the top starting pitcher remaining on the trade market. However, it sounds like Lee may not be going anywhere, as Jim Bowden of ESPN reports that the southpaw is not going to be traded today.
Cliff Lee is not getting traded today according to #source
The Red Sox should trade their top prospect, infielder Xander Bogaerts, to get Phillies left-hander Cliff Lee.
Trust me, Red Sox Nation wouldn't crumble.
Trading a can't-miss youngster for a starting pitcher who might help you win a World Series is hardly a radical concept, and the Red Sox know it.
Heck, they did it on Nov. 24, 2005, including two future stars, shortstop...
The Red Sox should trade their top prospect infielder Xander Bogaerts to get Phillies left-hander Cliff Lee.
Trust me Red Sox Nation wouldn’t crumble.
Trading a can’t-miss youngster for a starting pitcher who might help you win a World Series is hardly a radical concept and the Red Sox know it.
Heck they did it on Nov. 24 2005 including two future stars shortstop Hanley Ramirez...
ST. LOUIS -- So the Cardinals didn't make a significant trade before the deadline for the first time since 2008.
I say good for them.
As sharp as Cliff Lee would look wearing the Birds on the Bat, the Cardinals never were close to a deal, according to a Phillies source.
If the Cardinals weren't going to mortgage a big chunk of their future on Lee, no other available...
BOSTON – The Red Sox face a dilemma, albeit a good one.
Now that infielder Jose Iglesias has been shipped to the Tigers as part of the Jake Peavy deal, the Red Sox must decide who to turn to as their starting third baseman.
Brock Holt was the first infielder called up Wednesday, and he will serve in a platoon alongside Brandon Snyder for the time being. But that situation might...
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Source: Thearon W. Henderson/Getty Images North America If Michael Young is going to leave Philadelphia, it will only be to one team, and that team is the Texas Rangers according to sources. Sources: #Phillies’ Michael Young only approve trade to #Rangers. Has full no-trade clause. — Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) July 30, 2013 The Red Sox and Yankees were among two of the teams...
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Today at 4 PM is the trade deadline. The rumors are swirling. Post will be updated periodically.
- Cody Asche was called up yesterday, in what people thought could be a precursor to a Michael Young trade.
- One “source” says Cliff Lee will not be traded.
- Michael Young is now said to be willing to waive his NTC to go to Boston.
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