Joe Gacy: 'Me and Bray Wyatt Are Very, Very Different. I Don't Think We're Similar'

On the latest "Out of Character" podcast, Ryan Satin spoke with WWE NXT's Joe Gacy. During the interview, Gacy talked about his journey to WWE, bonding with Ava Raine, his matches in CZW, and other topics. Scroll down to hear the entire interview.

Joe Gacy on people commenting that his gimmick is similar to Bray Wyatt:

"I think a lot of the WWE fans, they only know what they see on TV. So when they see something, to try to understand it, they have to link it to something they already know. When I debuted, I had long hair, I had a beard, I have tattoos, and I was a slightly darker character, and let's be honest, I'm heavyset. So they just, 'Oh, this is like Bray Wyatt. This guy's like Bray Wyatt.' Then I debut a new character, which is, you know, pretty much currently what I'm doing and then there's like a darkness to the character so automatically everyone just associates it with 'Oh, he's a dark character. He has a beard, he's heavyset, and he has tattoos. He's just like Bray Wyatt.' My opinion, me and Bray Wyatt are very, very different. I don't think we're similar. Like, maybe the fact that we're two gimmicks that are darker, I think that's kind of where I see it. I mean, I understand years ago, Bray did a cult leader type thing. I guess you could say maybe, that aspect of Bray is similar with what I'm doing, but I believe what I'm doing now is very different than what Bray has done. Also, Bray is not, you know, the first person to do this thing. So I don't know why people have to just go right to Bray. Like nobody brings up Kevin Sullivan. Nobody brings up Waylon Mercy."

Joe Gacy on working with Ava Raine (The Rock's daughter):

"Funny story about Ava Raine. Before I even debuted on TV, me and her got together and came up kind of with this idea of like a cult type group. Originally, it was me, her, and this other guy. We were basically pitching for us to be, the original idea was almost like a House of 1000 Corpses type family group with like a culty edge, but then things didn't I guess work out exactly, and then 2.0 started, so I think that maybe changed some of the ideas. When 2.0 happened, I feel like some of that idea maybe kind of went out the window because it was like an overhaul repackaging of the brand itself. So she kind of like, I guess the idea of her and me joining together was kind of put on the backburner. Then when it was just me, Rip, and Jagger, she actually came up to me at the PC one day and said, 'So did you hear what's going to happen', and I said, 'No.' She was like, 'So I'm gonna join you guys', and I said, 'That's awesome', because originally it was going to be me and her trying to do something anyway. So I'm glad it finally panned out on TV. “

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