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River Gallo and Dylan O'Brien discuss identity and the universal relatability of 'Ponyboi'
Ed Wu

River Gallo and Dylan O'Brien discuss identity and the universal relatability of 'Ponyboi'

River Gallo wrote, produced, and stars in Ponyboi as the title character alongside Dylan O'Brien as Vinnie. The film, which won Best Narrative Feature at NewFest: New York's LGBT Film Festival in 2024, is currently playing in select theaters. 

Unfolding over the course of Valentine’s Day in New Jersey, a young intersex sex worker must run from the mob after a drug deal goes sideways, forcing him to confront his past. Esteban Arango’s bombastic, genre-defying second feature marks an exciting collaboration with writer-producer-star River Gallo, who delivers a breakout performance as Ponyboi. Featuring an all-star cast including Dylan O’Brien as a manipulative pimp and Murray Bartlett as Ponyboi’s charming cowboy love interest, PONYBOI is a constantly surprising, fully entertaining roller coaster ride of a film.

The duo spoke with Yardbarker about expanding the short film into a feature, the concept of redeeming a character, why everyone can relate to this story, and more.

"I've been thinking about it so much today, with how much you've been speaking about intersex identity and trans identity, and you saying it's speaking to a universal relatability of just that, yeah, we all can tap into an identity story because I do think that we all go through our own version of identity, especially in our upbringing," O'Brien expressed. "This happens to be a unique one, a widely unrepresented one, but yeah, I think it sort of proves that stories like these can be accessible in a wide, universal way, sort of in a way that this industry's always kind of fought against, you know what I mean? And we're fighting back with this." 

"I think at the end of the day, any good story follows some kind of like, hero's journey or archetypal blueprint, and it's about a character who discovers that they want something, and there's the challenge of trying to get what they want, and then, this discovery that maybe they had it all along, which is kind of what I was going for, in that traditional sense, and that's the universality of it," Gallo explained. "And through that we learn about ourselves, and we were just speaking about that identity crisis, that it is universal, even if people don't experience it through gender, maybe some people experience it through race, or through personal loss. We all don't come out of this life unscathed, even though some people like to think that that's not true; that is very true. In this story, particularly, I was really looking at and wanting to focus on that feeling of being, yeah, like, a misfit and an outsider, and on the periphery of becoming who you're meant to be, but feeling like you don't have the resources or the personal trauma, the past that's holding you back."

They continued to say, "And on this one particular day, for Ponyboi, breaking through all of that, and I feel like I've experienced in many instances in my life moments where like, it was this threshold watershed moment of like, okay, I mean, this movie and this premiere, this is one of them, actually. I know I'll be different on the other side of it, and it's been continuously showing me that I'm not who I thought I was, and who I am has been infinitely better because of this movie, because of working with people like Dylan, because of just following my intuition, following the fact that I had this desire and this dream, and just taking one step at a time to realize it."

Sophia Soto

Sophia Soto is a writer and interviewer with a passion for all things entertainment. She is a Senior Reporter at The Nerds of Color and contributes to Yardbarker, Screensphere, Den of Geek, What to Watch, Nerdtropolis, and Temple of Geek. You can see her past work on Remezcla, Young Hollywood, Looper, Paste Magazine, Primetimer, Soundsphere, and Starry Constellation Magazine

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